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Aviation students detained at Lampson
Lake County Record-Bee ^ | Oct. 12, Oct. 13, 2001 | Stephan Clark and staff writers

Posted on 10/13/2001 1:34:05 PM PDT by EdZep

Aviation students detained at Lampson

(Part 1 -- Friday Oct. 12)

Kanwalijit Singh Bhatti, 38, of the Republic of India, was detained Wednesday on an immigration violation, after landing a small aircraft at Lampson Field.

According to a press releass from the Lake County Sheriff's Department, at 4:30 p.m. Wednesday a sheriff's deputy responded to Lampson Field to invistigate a report of two male subjects of Middle Eastern descent who had just landed a small aircraft, were carrying black bags and had requested directions to walk to Clear Lake. The reporting party had checked the plane's tail numbers and apparently had not been able to identify the origin of the flight.

Sheriff's personnel located Singh and Mhummad Arrshowd, 23, of the Kingdom of Saudi Arabia, walking on Soda Bay Road near the Cinema 5 movie theater. Both men were interviewed there and agreed to be transported back to the airport.

During the time that Singh and Arrshowd were being interviewed, the sheriff's deputy at the airport had been in contact with the Federal Bureau of Investigations, the Federal Aviation Administration and Immigration and Naturalization Services (INS) sue to the heightened level of security nationwide and locally. As the invistigation continued, it was learned that the plane, a Cessna 152, had been rented out of Edwards Air Force Base, Aero Club, and the two men had been students of an aviation school based out of San Jose.

A search was conducted of the plane, but nothing suspicious was identified or located. It was learned through INS records that Bhatti's visa had expired and he was subsequently detained for INS at the Hill Road jail facility. Arrshowd was released and flew to a Sacramento airport.

Jail locked down

Part 2 -- Saturday Oct. 13

Following reported anthrax scares in Florida and New York, the Lake County jail was placed at its highest level of security and a hazardous materials team was ordered in to secure an unidentified powdery substance that had been found in the wallet of an inmate of Indian descent.

The Indian man -- 38-year-old Kanwalijit Singh Bhattia, an aviation student in San Jose -- was detained Wednesday and transported to the Lake County jail after it was discovered that he was in the country on an expired visa, according to Sheriff Rod Mitchell.

During a field search, Bhattia was found to have no weapons on his person. However, upon his booking into the county jail, a smal, rectangular baggy containing a powdery substance was discovered in his wallet, according to Mitchell.

Bhattia explained that the substance was one he rubbed on his forehead and used during prayer ceremonies. But this substance raised the suspicions of the duty sergeant who entered him into the jail.

"What is likely to be the case is that it'll turn out to be an innocuous substance used to practice a particular religeon," said Mitchell. "But in light of all the circumstances of the past week or so, I thought preventative measures to protect our staff was in order."

Within the last week, incidents of anthrax exposure have been reported at media outlets in New York and Florida. In each case, an unsuspecting person contracted the deadly bacteria from a powdery substance.

To determine if the Hill Road Correctional facility was similarly threatened, the facility was "locked down" from approximately noon until 7 p.m. [Friday, as clarified in a photo caption].

During that time, new inmates were not entered into the jail, but booked at an alternate facility. The FBI was also alerted of the incident.

The FBI analyzed the substance's packaging, which included writing in a foreign script and -- most prominently displayed -- "SAI something India," Mitchell said.

Web sites were found to reference these letters and the use of a powdery substance in the practice of a particular religion in India, Mitchell said. With that knowledge in hand, and Bhattia's statement, "the FBI's suggestion was to go ahead and resume normal operational procedures," Mitchell said.

Despite those assurances, Mitchell ordered the county's hazmat unit into the jail. Staffed by personnel from the Kelseyville and Lakeshore Fire Departments, the unit secured the substance and placed it in a box that will be sent to the California Department of Justice for analysis.

[SNIP -- rest of story goes into how the lockdown impacted operation of a current murder trial]


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It doesn't inspire much confidence that the 2nd (Arab) man was allowed to fly away BEFORE the concerns were raised about the powder possessed by the 1st (Indian) man.

I'm wondering why any suspicious incident is not now considered grounds for sending a non-citizen home. A FReeper yesterday reported having checked a federal website relating to issuance of green cards, which said that green cards can be revoked by the Secretary of State. Why not revoke green cards under suspicious circumstances? Or even for all citizens of middle-eastern states? Or, at least for states that sponsor terrorism? Isn't that our right? No need to persecute or mistreat. No need for a specific reason. A simple statement would do: "We hope you have enjoyed your stay in the USA. Please consider visiting again in the future, when we have better control of national security issues."


Socialists in Congress? Click on the zeppelin, Grasshopper.

1 posted on 10/13/2001 1:34:07 PM PDT by EdZep
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To: EdZep
Which state?
2 posted on 10/13/2001 1:36:39 PM PDT by Petronski
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To: Petronski
Northern California - rural.


Socialists in Congress? Click on the zeppelin, Grasshopper.

3 posted on 10/13/2001 1:39:17 PM PDT by EdZep
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To: Petronski
Which state?

This would be California.

Lake County is inland, north of the SFO bay area.

4 posted on 10/13/2001 1:40:29 PM PDT by Joaquin
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To: Joaquin
Clear Lake is big and beautiful. Many lakes around there, they must be part of water delivery to SF area.
5 posted on 10/13/2001 1:49:57 PM PDT by jwfiv
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To: EdZep
Why not revoke green cards under suspicious circumstances? Or even for all citizens of middle-eastern states? Or, at least for states that sponsor terrorism? Isn't that our right? No need to persecute or mistreat. No need for a specific reason. A simple statement would do: "We hope you have enjoyed your stay in the USA. Please consider visiting again in the future, when we have better control of national security issues."

I have to agree with you on this one.
America has been asleep at the wheel for so long, it seems to be having a hard time waking all the way up!

6 posted on 10/13/2001 1:52:02 PM PDT by Joaquin
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To: jwfiv
Clear Lake is big and beautiful. Many lakes around there, they must be part of water delivery to SF area.

At least the water supply for SF is safe. San Francisco and many of the communities around the bay get all or part of their drinking water from an aqueduct running from a resevoir in the Sierra's, in the valley just to the north of Yosemite.

7 posted on 10/13/2001 2:04:26 PM PDT by jimtorr
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At least the water supply for SF is safe.

You'd think so, but you'd be wrong! The city of SF get's it's water from the Hetch Hetchy resorvoir via the Hetch Hetchy aqueduct. That aqueduct runs RIGHT behind my house (I can toss a rock off of my back porch and hit one of the pumping stations). A couple weeks ago I grew concerned that the HH pumping stations were unsecured, with none of them having security guards posted, and most of them not even having locked gates. I called the local sherrif and the San Francisco Water District and you know what I got for my trouble? A thirty minute interrogation on my front porch about WHY I was looking at the pumping stations, HOW I knew so much about them and what they were for, and WHAT I was thinking when I looked at them as potential terrorist targets. They were acting like I was the terrorist, when I'd simply suggested that they post a guard out here. I finally got so fed up that I told the officers to arrest me or get the hell off my property, so they left.

Last time I looked, the gate was still unlocked and the pumping station was still unguarded. I'm personally keeping an eye on the station, and a loaded gun nearby (I've also rigged up a spotlight to illuminate the pumphouse at night...as it has no security lights of its own), but I can only watch one of the four local stations. I still can't get over my disappointment at the official response my calls got. Pathetic, really.
8 posted on 10/13/2001 2:22:52 PM PDT by Arthalion
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To: Arthalion
Good for you. Like a Minuteman. Bless you.
9 posted on 10/13/2001 2:29:16 PM PDT by jwfiv
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To: EdZep
How did these two WOGGIES get a plane out of Edwards AFB???
10 posted on 10/13/2001 2:43:08 PM PDT by MindBender26
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To: jwfiv
Remember, if you feel you need to use deadly force, be very careful afterwards.

"He said he was putting anthrax into out water supply and I believed him! I don't think I should say anything else until my laywer gets here"

(Keep repeating above.)

11 posted on 10/13/2001 2:46:18 PM PDT by MindBender26
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To: EdZep
What happened to the black bags they were carrying?? Couldn't find any mention of them being searched.
12 posted on 10/13/2001 3:17:52 PM PDT by Sueann
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To: Arthalion
Mercy. I'm still amazed these facilities have not had some security all along. What's it going to take? No, please, don't answer.
13 posted on 10/13/2001 4:22:01 PM PDT by AuntB
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To: Sueann
What happened to the black bags they were carrying?? Couldn't find any mention of them being searched.

I presume they were checked, and that omission of that detail was due to poor reporting. Not sure.


Socialists in Congress? Click on the zeppelin, Grasshopper.

14 posted on 10/13/2001 4:30:55 PM PDT by EdZep
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To: MindBender26
"He said he was putting anthrax into out water supply and I believed him! I don't think I should say anything else until my laywer gets here"

From where does this quoted come? Your post makes it appear that it's a quote from the story I posted, but it does not.


Socialists in Congress? Click on the zeppelin, Grasshopper.

15 posted on 10/13/2001 4:32:41 PM PDT by EdZep
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To: EdZep
From where does this quoted quote come? Your post makes it appear that it's a quote from the story I posted, but it does is not.

Sloppy, sloopy, sloppy...


Socialists in Congress? Click on the zeppelin, Grasshopper.

16 posted on 10/13/2001 4:38:05 PM PDT by EdZep
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To: EdZep
Ed,

That would be my statement to LEOs if I saw someone tampering with our water supply and had to use deadly physical force to stop him

17 posted on 10/13/2001 5:11:07 PM PDT by MindBender26
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To: MindBender26
I get it now... just a little slow.


Socialists in Congress? Click on the zeppelin, Grasshopper.

18 posted on 10/13/2001 5:31:19 PM PDT by EdZep
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To: EdZep
Humane penatly for terrorists:

Cut their heads of, sew them in pigs bellies, and send them to their families.

That way they can't get into Moslem heaven, per the Koran.

Kinda removes the motivation....IF they are Muslims....

19 posted on 10/13/2001 6:01:17 PM PDT by FReethesheeples
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To: Arthalion
I called the local sherrif and the San Francisco Water District and you know what I got for my trouble? A thirty minute interrogation on my front porch about WHY I was looking at the pumping stations, HOW I knew so much about them and what they were for, and WHAT I was thinking when I looked at them as potential terrorist targets. They were acting like I was the terrorist, when I'd simply suggested that they post a guard out here. I finally got so fed up that I told the officers to arrest me or get the hell off my property, so they left. ...

Good work! That sounds like it should be your cue to go over their heads. Sounds to me like they kinda-sorta understand the threat on one level, but on another level they're not in any position or inclination to do anything effective about it (like authorizing posting a guard). Weird.

How many of these pumping stations are there? Maybe it wouldn't be feasible to post human guards at each one? Someone up the food chain needs to hear from you. (& hold on to your anger for when you talk to them! :-)

20 posted on 10/13/2001 6:34:20 PM PDT by jennyp
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