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Christians in Islamic Countries Targeted
UPI ^ | October 16, 2001 | UWE SIEMON-NETTO, UPI Religion Correspondent

Posted on 10/16/2001 8:14:52 PM PDT by tomball

WASHINGTON, Oct. 16 (UPI) -- The situation of Christians has deteriorated in many Islamic countries since the terrorist attacks on Washington and the subsequent U.S.-British raids on Afghanistan, according to Paul Marshall, a senior fellow at the Center for Religious Freedom in Washington.

A prominent U.S. imam Monday assailed as un-Islamic the persecution of Christians in Muslim countries ranging from Indonesia to Nigeria.

"The Koran enjoins Muslims to treat everybody with dignity and compassion," said Muzzamil Siddiqi, director of the Islamic society of Orange County, Cal., when asked about the murder threats, violence, forced conversions, incarceration and discrimination some Christians are being subjected to.

Diane Knippers, president of the Washington-based Institute on Religion and democracy, praised Siddiqi's remarks as a wonderful statement. She said, "We need more of this. We need Muslim groups in the U.S. to raise their voices on behalf of Christians in predominantly Muslim areas."

Knippers pointed out that "U.S. churches were quick to speak up on behalf of Moslems in our society. They rightly encouraged all America to treat them with respect. At the same time the churches should speak up when Christians in Muslim areas are in jeopardy."

The National Council of Churches' news service also condemned persecution Monday.

"We consider persecution of any religious group unacceptable. We are actively engaged in protecting Christians and other religious minorities in countries around the world in partnership with indigenous religious groups. To give specific details could jeopardize both their security and our efforts on their behalf," the service said in a statement.

In a similar vein, Jerry Powers of the U.S. Conference of Catholic Bishops stated that his church had been consistently active on behalf of persecuted Christians abroad.

Marshall, an internationally recognized authority on religious rights, said Christians were in peril in a long belt of Muslim nations stretching from the eastern parts of Indonesia all the way to West Africa.

In some cases this was due to government policies; in others religious fanatics are menacing Christians, embarrassing national governments, he added.

In an interview with United Press International, Marshall drew a grim picture, country by country:

Indonesia: In the eastern islands of this largest Muslim nation in the world, white-uniformed militiamen of Laskar Jihad are forcibly converting Christians to Islam. Marshall said this caused considerable embarrassment to the government, which did not condone such actions.

This campaign has so far cost the lives of 5,000 to 6,000 people, the British-born scholar related. "There are links between Laskar Jihad and top terrorist Osama bin Laden," he said.

Bangladesh: Small radical groups supporting Osama bin Laden have bombed or burned down churches.

Pakistan: Christians depend on the protection of the government as several Muslim leaders have issued fatwas (religious decrees) to kill two Pakistani Christians for every Afghan Muslim who dies in the Anglo-American air raids.

There have also been attacks on Christians along the Afghan border, Marshall told UPI.

Egypt: The government discriminates against Christianity by financing the construction of mosques, while denying permits for the reconstruction of Christian sanctuaries, according to Marshall.

Saudi-Arabia: In the last two months, 15 Christian expatriates have been jailed for worshiping in private homes, and three have been tortured, according to the Washington-based religious rights organization, International Christian Concern.

An information officer at the Saudi embassy in Washington, who declined to give his name, denied this Tuesday: "As far as we know this is not true. We are not aware of any (Christians) in jail at this time," he said.

No religion other than Islam is allowed in the kingdom and there is no church. When asked about this, Abdullah M. Khouj, rector of the Islamic Center in Washington, replied, "This is a matter to be negotiated between governments."

Sudan: Some 2 million people -- chiefly Christians -- have been killed in a civil war fought by the radical Islamic government in the north of the country against non-Arab population in the South, according to several sources including Marshall and Diane Knippers' Institute on Religion and Democracy.

For several years now, international religious rights organizations have reported that Christians are being raped, tortured to death, and crucified.

Somalia: Anybody found out to be a Christian will quickly be beheaded by Muslim vigilantes, Marshall said.

Nigeria: In 12 states, versions of Shari'a law, the Islamic penal code, have been imposed -- in violation of the constitution of that African federal republic.

After the imposition of Islamic law, riots ensued killing 5,000 in the city of Kaduna alone, said Marshall. Other reports put the death toll at around 1,000.

In other Muslim countries, such as Algeria, Islamic radicals opposed to the government are killing other Muslims, primarily women and children although they have also murdered priests, nuns and even a bishop, Marshall explained.

Others, such as the once tolerant, democratic African nation of Mauritania are now taking tougher measures against Christians, Marshall continued. "If you arrive with a Bible, they'll take it off you. And it's illegal to preach Christianity to the locals."

Becoming a Christian in many Muslim countries such as Saudi Arabia, Iran or Afghanistan can mean that one loses one's job, one's ability to be educated, one's family, and even one's life, Wendy Norvell of the Southern Baptist Convention's International Mission Board, told UPI.

Added Robert Reccord, President of the SBC's North American Mission board, "We look forward to the day when Christians living in Islamic countries will have the same religious freedoms that Muslims currently enjoy in the United States and Canada.”

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1 posted on 10/16/2001 8:14:52 PM PDT by tomball
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To: tomball
Becoming a Christian in many Muslim countries such as Saudi Arabia, Iran or Afghanistan can mean that one loses one's job, one's ability to be educated, one's family, and even one's life, Wendy Norvell of the Southern Baptist Convention's International Mission Board, told UPI.

Not very tolerant, are they?

2 posted on 10/16/2001 8:20:52 PM PDT by Pentagram
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To: tomball
"The Koran enjoins Muslims to treat everybody with dignity and compassion," said Muzzamil Siddiqi, director of the Islamic society of Orange County, Cal., when asked about the murder threats, violence, forced conversions, incarceration and discrimination some Christians are being subjected to.

That's a lie:

Medina Suras
The Chapter of Women
[Chapters from the Koran]
The Harvard Classics 1909–14

But if there befalls you grace from God, he would say—as though there were no friendship between you and him—‘O would that I had been with thee to attain this mighty happiness!’ Let those then fight in God’s way who sell this life of the world for the next; and whoso fights in God’s way, then, be he killed or be he victorious, we will give him a mighty hire.

What ails you that ye do not fight in God’s way, and for the weak men and women and children, who say, ‘Lord, bring us out of this town 19 of oppressive folk, and make for us from Thee a patron, and make for us from Thee a help?’

Those who believe fight in the way of God; and those who disbelieve fight in the way of Tâghût; fight ye then against the friends of Satan, verily, Satan’s tricks are weak.

Do ye not see those to whom it is said, ‘Restrain your hands, and be steadfast in prayer and give alms;’ and when it is prescribed for them to fight then a band of them fear men, as though it were the fear of God or a still stronger fear, and they say, ‘O our Lord! why hast thou prescribed for us to fight, couldst thou not let us abide till our near appointed time?’ Say, ‘The enjoyment of this world is but slight, and the next is better for him who fears;’—but they shall not be wronged a straw.

...

Why are ye two parties about the hypocrites, when God hath overturned them for what they earned? Do ye wish to guide those whom God hath led astray? Whoso God hath led astray ye shall not surely find for him a path. They would fain that ye misbelieve as they misbelieve, that ye might be alike; take ye not patrons from among them until they too flee in God’s way; but if they turn their backs, then seize them and kill them wheresoever ye find them, and take from them neither patron nor help,—save those who reach a people betwixt whom and you is an alliance—or who come to you while their bosoms prevent them from fighting you or fighting their own people. But had God pleased He would have given you dominion over them, and they would surely have fought you. But if they retire from you and do not fight you, and offer you peace,—then God hath given you no way against them.

Ye will find others who seek for quarter from you, and quarter from their own people; whenever they return to sedition they shall be overturned therein: but if they retire not from you, nor offer you peace, nor restrain their hands, then seize them and kill them wheresoever ye find them;—over these we have made for you manifest power.


3 posted on 10/16/2001 8:23:45 PM PDT by SlickWillard
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To: SlickWillard; JHavard; Havoc; OLD REGGIE; Iowegian; PayNoAttentionManBehindCurtain; the808bass...
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6 posted on 10/17/2001 8:38:00 PM PDT by RnMomof7
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To: tomball
Well, we should explain to them that theirs is the "religion of peace". Maybe they need a "readers digest" version of the Koran that includes only those sections that praise peace and tolerance - what, 1, 2 pages?
7 posted on 10/17/2001 8:42:27 PM PDT by EaglesUpForever
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To: SlickWillard
The situation of Christians has deteriorated in many Islamic countries since the terrorist attacks on Washington and the subsequent U.S.-British raids on Afghanistan

What kind of idiocy is this? Christians were being captured, held, sold, tortured, and maimed as slaves in Sudan before September 11. The Taliban had already arrested aide workers for having Christian computer discs and literature, or even mentioning Christianity out loud. Syria has never tolerated Christians and they destroyed the Christian government in Lebanon and occupied it. But no one ever speaks of *Occupied Lebanon* even though it is the real truth.
Christians are not treated very fairly by any Near Eastern government except Israel, and now that the US has attacked the Taliban, some Christian Human Rights group is noticing all this for the first time?
Spit.....

8 posted on 10/17/2001 8:52:42 PM PDT by NixNatAVanG InDaBurgh
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To: RnMomof7
"The Koran enjoins Muslims to treat everybody with dignity and compassion," said Muzzamil Siddiqi, director of the Islamic society of Orange County, Cal., when asked about the murder threats, violence, forced conversions, incarceration and discrimination some Christians are being subjected to.

The newsmedia here will continue to squawk about Afghan casualties.........

9 posted on 10/18/2001 12:08:41 AM PDT by He Rides A White Horse
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To: He Rides A White Horse; RnMomof7
The more this goes on, the more I am convinced radical Islam is one of the most evil movements on earth, and I believe it was spawned by Satan himself to persecute Christians and Jews. Suppose?
10 posted on 10/18/2001 12:13:02 AM PDT by Mark17
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To: Mark17
I think Islam worships a false god. False gods are the property of...........
11 posted on 10/18/2001 12:15:57 AM PDT by He Rides A White Horse
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To: NixNatAVanG InDaBurgh
Christian Human Rights group is noticing all this for the first time? Spit.....

Oh "spit" yerself. This has always been a concern of Christian churches worldwide. "Remember those who are suffering, as though you were yourself suffering."

12 posted on 10/18/2001 12:17:27 AM PDT by HiTech RedNeck
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To: He Rides A White Horse
I think Islam worships a false god. False gods are the property of...........

Satan?

13 posted on 10/18/2001 12:19:01 AM PDT by Mark17
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To: Mark17
Marshall, an internationally recognized authority on religious rights, said Christians were in peril in a long belt of Muslim nations stretching from the eastern parts of Indonesia all the way to West Africa.

Christians are always in peril in Muslim lands. Islam is not tolerant of other religions. Never has been, never will be.

14 posted on 10/18/2001 12:19:48 AM PDT by He Rides A White Horse
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To: HiTech RedNeck
Oh "spit" yerself. This has always been a concern of Christian churches worldwide.

C'mon, man. I was talking about the article, not Christians. Get a grip. This coalition, Center for Religious Freedom in Washington, is speaking up now and blaming all of this on US bombing of Afghanistan. That is untrue and is more propaganda by the *peaceful* muslims amongst US.

15 posted on 10/18/2001 4:34:07 AM PDT by NixNatAVanG InDaBurgh
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To: tomball; RnMomof7; the_doc; CCWoody; Uriel1975
Communism may have been the great force in persecuting believers during the 20th century, I believe that Islam will replace it in the 21st. (If it hasn't already!)

When are we going to realize that Muslims are deluded followers of Satan, and that they truly hate God and His people?

16 posted on 10/18/2001 6:31:42 AM PDT by Jerry_M
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To: tomball
Added Robert Reccord, President of the SBC's North American Mission board, "We look forward to the day when Christians living in Islamic countries will have the same religious freedoms that Muslims currently enjoy in the United States and Canada."

I love Bob Reccord as a brother in Christ, but I don't really think that this is ever going to happen as long as they remain "Islamic countries". People in that part of the world will only enjoy the freedoms that we enjoy if the governments of those countries share common roots with us. Those roots are not to be found in Islam.

17 posted on 10/18/2001 6:36:08 AM PDT by Jerry_M
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To: tomball
Added Robert Reccord, President of the SBC's North American Mission board, "We look forward to the day when Christians living in Islamic countries will have the same religious freedoms that Muslims currently enjoy in the United States and Canada.”

Keep looking, Bunky. Christianity and Islam ain't the same thing, and they won't bear the same fruits.

Dan

18 posted on 10/18/2001 7:06:36 AM PDT by BibChr
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This campaign has so far cost the lives of 5,000 to 6,000 people, the British-born scholar related. "There are links between Laskar Jihad and top terrorist Osama bin Laden," he said.

And the number of martyrs grows daily...

19 posted on 10/18/2001 7:43:33 AM PDT by CCWoody
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"The Koran enjoins Muslims to treat everybody with dignity and compassion," said Muzzamil Siddiqi, director of the Islamic society of Orange County, Cal., when asked about the murder threats, violence, forced conversions, incarceration and discrimination some Christians are being subjected to.

They have great compassion as they cut off hands and shoot helpless women in the head for sport

If there every was a case of a baren tree needing to be cursed it is Islam

20 posted on 10/18/2001 8:14:29 AM PDT by RnMomof7
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