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Terrorist Surface To Air Missiles Possibly In US
Rense.com ^
| Oct. 19, 2001
| Michael C. Ruppert (mruppert@copvcia.com)
Posted on 10/20/2001 6:26:50 AM PDT by callisto
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Terrorist Surface To Air Missiles
Possibly In US
Government Is In 'No Comment' Mode
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By Michael C. Ruppert
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mruppert@copvcia.com
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From The Wilderness Subscriber Bulletin
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10-19-1
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c. 2001 Michael C. Ruppert
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and From The Wilderness Publications. All Rights Reserved.
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May be recopied or distributed for non-profit purposes only.
- Editorial Note: Although FTW has received many reports pertaining to the likely nature of future terrorist attacks we have refrained from publishing them because we either felt that they were unsubstantiated or risked causing unnecessary alarm. This story is the first such story that we have felt it essential to report. We view the anthrax outbreaks of recent weeks as a distracting form of psychological warfare, which do not pose an immediate risk to any large numbers of people.
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- FTW, October 19, 2001, 1400 PDT - Credible information received by FTW from a source long connected to intelligence operations, and circumstantially supported by recent but little publicized events - including government alerts - indicates that a number of hand-held surface-to-air missiles, perhaps as many as 35, may have been smuggled into the U.S. from Canada.
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- Events in the last two days at U.S. and French nuclear generating plants lend credibility to the source's claims.
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- On October 15, Michael Riconosciuto, a computer programmer connected by government documents to CIA and FBI intelligence operations involving Promis software, made contact with a radio talk show host who has requested anonymity. Riconosciuto passed on a warning that as many as 35 Russian-made surface to air missiles had been smuggled across the Canadian border into the U.S. The movement of the missiles reportedly occurred within the last week to ten days. According to the broadcaster the missiles were part of a two-phase attack on the United States that began with the World Trade Center attacks on September 11. The second phase of the plan was to shoot down large aircraft over population centers and/or "high value" targets.
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- Although Riconosciuto is currently an inmate in the federal penitentiary at Allenwood, PA - serving a sentence on a drug conviction - he has repeatedly been the source of highly accurate information as documented in a number of press stories, even while in prison. His status as a credible intelligence source, both for U.S. and foreign agencies was confirmed last year in an investigation by the Royal Canadian Mounted Police (RCMP) national security staff. During that investigation, members of the RCMP - tracking developments around an intelligence software program known as Promis - visited FTW editor Michael Ruppert and acknowledged that Riconosciuto was a key player with highly sensitive intelligence knowledge. However, both the RCMP investigators and Ruppert shared the opinion that Riconosciuto's information was not always 100% accurate. (To read a fuller description on the RCMP/Promis investigation please visit http://www.copvcia.com/stories/may_2001/052401_promis.html.)
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- In a recent and unrelated development, United States government agencies, including the Department of Justice and the FBI, acknowledged in FOX News reports on October 17, that they had stopped using Promis. FTW has confirmed that the FBI now admits use of the software. These sudden reversals came after years of denials - including court testimony - from those agencies that they had ever used the software. These confirmations support longstanding claims made by Riconosciuto.
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- On the evening of October 17, as confirmed by brief but unpublicized stories by the Associated Press and in direct interviews by FTW, the Three Mile Island (TMI) nuclear plant outside of Harrisburg, PA was put on a state of high alert. At the same time the FAA ordered an immediate and unexplained shutdown of the Harrisburg airport located just a few miles from the plant.
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- On October 19, an AP report disclosed that France had suddenly set up a radar system in northwest France to "sweep the skies above Europe's largest nuclear reprocessing plant as a precaution against airborne suicide attacks." Taken at its face the AP story seems to indicate preparations for a different kind of attack. However, it raises questions about why military and civilian radar systems currently in operation would not detect an aircraft moving off course toward the plant and might possibly be a cover to disguise other kinds of preparations. There are too many operational variables to determine, one way or another, if the French move is connected to events at TMI.
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- Harrisburg airport spokesperson, Scott Miller, told FTW that he had no knowledge of why the FAA ordered the shutdown of the Harrisburg airport on Wednesday night. "We were just following orders from the FAA."
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- FAA Eastern Regional spokesperson Jim Peters told FTW, "Even if I knew, I'd have to refer you to the FBI.
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- An unidentified spokesperson at FBI headquarters in Washington, D.C. told FTW, "No comment."
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- The Harrisburg airport reopened yesterday morning.
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- What is clear is that nuclear facilities have become a very clear priority for defensive precautions since September 11.
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- There are 103 nuclear power plants in the United States. The French facility at La Hague is a reprocessing facility that handles highly radioactive nuclear waste from reactors in Europe and Asia, according to the AP story. France is almost totally dependent on nuclear energy.
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- Dave Carl, speaking for the TMI plant's owner, Exelon Nuclear, told FTW, "The events of Wednesday night began when the Nuclear Regulatory Commission (NRC) notified TMI that a security threat had been made against the plant. The good news was that nothing happened. We are taking extra security measures." Carl declined to state whether there was a known direct connection between events at TMI and the Harrisburg airport. According to Carl, TMI is currently undergoing a scheduled refueling and maintenance period. The plant is currently shut down and scheduled for a restart in early November.
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- Riconosciuto allegedly told the talk show host who forwarded the information that he has been warning the FBI of terrorist-related surface-to-air missile attacks for months and that the FBI has attempted to silence him. The talk show host told FTW that Riconosciuto fears direct reprisals for having issued a warning to the media.
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posted on
10/20/2001 6:26:50 AM PDT
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callisto
To: callisto
Seems reasonable
To: callisto
It sounds like the "source" here doesn't belong in prison, he belongs in the nuthouse. Is there really a need for these self-important, nonsensical postings based on dreams from a "super secret" source who is a spy only in his own mind?
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posted on
10/20/2001 6:33:41 AM PDT
by
laconic
To: laconic
"From The Wilderness Subscriber Bullitin"? As posted on Jeff Rense? Feel free to mix in a reliable source.
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posted on
10/20/2001 6:37:40 AM PDT
by
stilts
To: stilts
"CONSIDER THE SOURCE" should be every FReepers mantra.
Rense.com does post some "unusual" stories but you will also find the majority of which are carried on many other websites, including "mainstream press." I'm fishing into memory here (without my AM java) but I believe I recall reading that the man behind copvcia is either former cia or cop.
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posted on
10/20/2001 6:46:53 AM PDT
by
callisto
To: laconic
This guy has been watching too many James Bond movies and he's deluded into thinking he's the star "spy". Really, the idiocy about some super well-connected spy who is in prison and targeted by the CIA and who knows who is a bit threadbare unbelievable. What's next, some kids in a treehouse club (perhaps Disney's "Spy Kids") claiming they know where to find Al Qaeda?
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posted on
10/20/2001 6:57:36 AM PDT
by
laconic
To: callisto
I can see the terrorists shooting down a lot of planes in one day. But to shoot them down so the plane is aimed at a nuke plant? Not very likely. What about shooting the nuke plant? What would that do?
Mrs VS
To: callisto
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posted on
10/20/2001 6:58:20 AM PDT
by
Woodstock
To: VeritatisSplendor
Of course, you could shoot down a plane near a nuke plant, and when all the law enforcement and rescue people were drawn there, go after the plant. I hope there are SIZEABLE military contingents around each plant, under orders not to draw off.
Mrs VS
To: laconic
The scary thing is that,in times like these, what if someone like this guy is right, and all of our wisecracks are wrong? Knowledge is a weapon. But it goes both ways. Forewarned is forearmed, but I don't like the idea of giving anyone any ideas they didn't have on their own.
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posted on
10/20/2001 7:15:33 AM PDT
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callisto
To: callisto
what a looney tune, lol.
... a radio talk show host who has requested anonymity.
yeah, lots of them around, right?
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posted on
10/20/2001 7:49:18 AM PDT
by
fnord
To: VeritatisSplendor
It seems to me that a rifleman sitting at the end of a runway (even shooting from a residential area) with a good hunting rifle and a couple well placed shots could bring down jet liners at will. Take-offs would be the most vulnerable. We will not be safe till all these people are out of our country. Anyone that thinks they are safe, just doesn't get it.
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posted on
10/20/2001 7:58:25 AM PDT
by
blam
To: callisto
This may very well be just pure speculation. However, facts that we do know:
There are such things as shoulder-mounted surface-to-air missiles.
There are considerable numbers of people in Afghanistan with considerable experience operating these weapons. It must be assumed that the Al Qaida network has a considerable number of operatives with the training and experience to use these.
Russia is a mess, underpaid/unpaid Russian military personnel are vulnerable to compromise, and the sale/theft of Russian military assets to rogue states or terrorists is a credible threat that has been openly discussed for years.
The coastlines of the US -- and even more so, Canada -- are poorly monitored, and it is easy to smuggle things in undetected (witness the drug trade). Immigration and air passenger security procedures in Canada pre-9/11 may have also left something to be desired. The border between the US and Canada is much too long to control, and there are plenty of places where things could be brought in undetected.
We know that there is a large network of terrorists operating within the US with the motive to strike us hard and often.
Since Sept 11, the government has established no-fly zones above nuclear plants and other important facilities. There must be a reason for this.
The above facts would tend to suggest that Al Qaida terrorist operatives in the US might indeed have shoulder-mounted surface-to-air missiles that could take down commercial aircraft, and that this should thus be assessed as a credible threat. We must also keep in mind that the government may be in possession of classified intelligence in addition to the above that would confirm the threat.
On the other hand, commercial aviation is being allowed to fly. This does not mean that the threat is not credible. It may mean that a decision has been made that the loss of a few airliners would be less damaging to the country than the permanent grounding of all commercial aviation. The downing of an airliner into a nuclear power plant, however, or into any major FedGov facility, has been judged a more dangerous threat, thus the establishment of the no-fly zones.
To: callisto
Even if he is not right about the specifics (35 SAMs smuggled in within the last wk./10 days), the general threat sounds possible.
JWYTIWSTFA? (Just when you thought it was safe to fly again?)
Seriously, I know air carriers are important to the economy, but the air carriers and gov't seem to be overlooking the obvious: there are inherent disadvantages to air travel (compared to trains) for intra-continental travel. We got back from a trip, doing our part to fight terrorism by taking to the air. But the train travel within Europe was more comfortable and enjoyable than the flights. Getting to airports, parking, security, etc.; plus being able to walk around on a train, etc.: a FAR more enjoyable way to travel, when possible.
Problem, in the good ole' USA, it's hardly possible. Maybe airline cos. should think of themselves in the transportation business and start building up passenger train service?!?
The terrorist threat will not be a short-lived one, either. SAMs make me more likely to reconsider flying than the odds of future hijackings. Train derailments are just not the same from a terrorist point of view as a plane falling from the sky. On the ground, your odds of survival are greater, too. We flew last Christmas time, too, and the weather delays and cancellations we suffered through would not have caused a train to hiccup . . .
The recent air security focus by the FAA and carriers is an attempt to optimize the security of air travel (which can only do so much, as the SAM threat points out), when the answer to lower the overall threat to travelers is clearly to also diversify our transportation options. . . It is sub-optimization to attempt to optimize a portion of the overall problem without even looking at the rest . . . We can ill-afford such sub-optimization, esp. if there are SAMs out there.
To: callisto
I'm wondering about these off-the-wall sources that are posted here. Do we know if they are reliable? If so, which ones are and which are not? If they are such reliable sources, how come we've never heard of most of them, and where do people like you come upon this information? Please do not consider my questions to be hostile, I've just been wondering.......
To: callisto
I don't put anything passed these whacos they will do anything..
To: laconic
I concur!!!
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posted on
10/20/2001 2:18:55 PM PDT
by
Ordie 1
To: Trust but Verify
Rense.com began as Sightings, the TV show, as is about as mainstream as you can get for an "alternative" newssite.
There are billions of miles in internetland and believe me, if you haven't seen the real off-the-wall stuff it's out there. This site carries articles of which most (3/4 probably) can easily be located on other "mainstream" news sources. Follow the link and check out the other stuff on the site or run an internet search on the people mentioned in the article to see who they are.
As always, my mantra is CONSIDER THE SOURCE, but Rense.com is fairly good.
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posted on
10/20/2001 3:47:43 PM PDT
by
callisto
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