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Cardinal Says War on Terrorism Is 'Justified'
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| Monday, October 22, 2001
| Associated Press
Posted on 10/22/2001 10:02:37 PM PDT by grimalkin
Edited on 04/22/2004 12:31:27 AM PDT by Jim Robinson.
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posted on
10/22/2001 10:02:37 PM PDT
by
grimalkin
To: grimalkin
Subliminal coded message to terrorists:
"ALL YOUR BASE ARE BELONG TO US."
To: FReethesheeples
Bump for the cardinal!
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posted on
10/22/2001 10:07:30 PM PDT
by
Pyro7480
To: grimalkin
A Bishop with two danglers! Great! Hope it spreads to the other Bishops, then we'll see some real change rather than PC idiocy!
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posted on
10/22/2001 10:12:06 PM PDT
by
pke
To: grimalkin
Cardinal Anthony Bevilacqua said the actions of the Bush administration since the Sept. 11 terrorist attacks fit seven criteria for a just war developed by the church since the time of Augustine in the fifth century. "If all of the conditions for a just war are observed, then the military defense of our country against unjust aggression is not only a right, it becomes a duty," Bevilacqua said. Would this be considered a Catholic Fatwa?
To: Mike Darancette
No. The Church is a moral guide. It does not issues fatwa's.
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posted on
10/22/2001 10:17:04 PM PDT
by
Slyfox
To: Mike Darancette
No, it's just a "if you're Catholic, it's ok to kick some Taliban butt."
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posted on
10/22/2001 10:22:48 PM PDT
by
jrherreid
To: Mike Darancette
Would this be considered a Catholic Fatwa?What has happened to Americans that they can't think any more clearly than this?
The Cardinal is correcting the suicidal Christian pacifists' errors. He is not advocating retaliation. He is not advocating deliberately killing non-Christian civilians wherever they exist. The later of course would parallel the muslim clerics' fatwas.
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posted on
10/22/2001 10:25:20 PM PDT
by
Havisham
To: Mike Darancette
"Would this be considered a Catholic Fatwa?"
No but I appreciate the humor. Hahahaha!
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posted on
10/22/2001 10:31:15 PM PDT
by
Theresa
To: grimalkin
The only problem is that I can't find anything in the gospel that condones violence for any reason.
The gospel has the long term solution to our present problem in the admonition to take the gospel to all nations and convert them. But as for short term survival solutions, I haven't found any so far. Can anyone else?
To: Mike Darancette
lol
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posted on
10/22/2001 10:41:39 PM PDT
by
KQQL
To: grimalkin
Bravo ! Cardinal Anthony Bevilacqua
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posted on
10/22/2001 10:42:02 PM PDT
by
KQQL
To: patriciaruth
BTTT
To: grimalkin
". . . the military defense of our country against unjust aggression is not only a right, it becomes a duty . . ." This is something that nobody seems to understand these days. It is also the reason why Roman Catholic moral teachings have been able to withstand intense scrutiny through the ages -- because they are founded on very solid principles and do not offer much latitude. In other words, there is only one answer to each question.
To: patriciaruth
The only problem is that I can't find anything in the gospel that condones violence for any reason. When Christ came upon the money-changers in the temple, He didn't even bother trying to bring His own Gospel to them. He took a whip and drove them out of there.
To: patriciaruth
"If the Christian Religion forbade war altogether, those who sought salutary advice in the Gospel would rather have been counselled to cast aside their arms, and to give up soldiering altogether. On the contrary, they were told: 'Do violence to no man . . . and be content with your pay' [Lk. 3:14. If he commanded them to be content with their pay, he did not forbid soldiering." -Augustine of Hippo [Ep. ad Marcel. cxxxviii]:
Incidentally, violence is a pejorative word. "Force" is a neutral word, and like a gun is simply a tool. It is in its use or abuse that its moral use is to be judged. Violence implies violation, and is wicked in itself. But force, in the service of justice and charity, is at times a Christian duty.
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posted on
10/22/2001 11:08:46 PM PDT
by
Dumb_Ox
To: Havisham
What has happened to Americans that they can't think any more clearly than this? DEF: Fatwa - a legal opinion or decree handed down by an Islamic religious leader.
Of itself a fatwa can be on any issue not just death to infidels. One difference I see is that Muslims pay more attention to their leaders.
One other difference being that the Catholic Church has an infallible Pope who can put a lid on the Bishops and Cardinals.
That said, sending people out to kill and die in the name of any God seems to me to be a bad idea.
To: Mike Darancette
Of itself a fatwa can be on any issue not just death to infidels. One difference I see is that Muslims pay more attention to their leaders. One other difference being that the Catholic Church has an infallible Pope who can put a lid on the Bishops and Cardinals.
Unresponsive to my question. You're being too cute by half and you have even less sensible to say about the Catholic Church. I wish the Pope would issue ex cathedra but you will never see it happen.
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posted on
10/23/2001 12:25:58 AM PDT
by
Havisham
To: Alberta's Child
Don't get me wrong, but because Christ has the authority to judge and punish the money changers violating God's house does not mean we do.
Christians are admonished often not to concern themselves about the problems of earthly kingdoms but to keep their eyes on the kingdom of Heaven.
This is not a glib question with me. It has become a crisis of conscience that I do not recommend anyone follow me in, but which I would appreciate any help in understanding. I do not know if my rabid American patriotism is compatible with my commitment to Jesus Christ. It may come down to the difficulty of serving both God and mammon.
To: patriciaruth
Luke 22:36
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posted on
10/23/2001 3:01:17 AM PDT
by
ccmay
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