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Cardinal Says War on Terrorism Is 'Justified'
FoxNews.com ^ | Monday, October 22, 2001 | Associated Press

Posted on 10/22/2001 10:02:37 PM PDT by grimalkin

Edited on 04/22/2004 12:31:27 AM PDT by Jim Robinson. [history]

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1 posted on 10/22/2001 10:02:37 PM PDT by grimalkin
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To: grimalkin
Subliminal coded message to terrorists:

"ALL YOUR BASE ARE BELONG TO US."

2 posted on 10/22/2001 10:06:33 PM PDT by FReethesheeples
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To: FReethesheeples
Bump for the cardinal!
3 posted on 10/22/2001 10:07:30 PM PDT by Pyro7480
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To: grimalkin
A Bishop with two danglers! Great! Hope it spreads to the other Bishops, then we'll see some real change rather than PC idiocy!
4 posted on 10/22/2001 10:12:06 PM PDT by pke
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To: grimalkin
Cardinal Anthony Bevilacqua said the actions of the Bush administration since the Sept. 11 terrorist attacks fit seven criteria for a just war developed by the church since the time of Augustine in the fifth century. "If all of the conditions for a just war are observed, then the military defense of our country against unjust aggression is not only a right, it becomes a duty," Bevilacqua said.

Would this be considered a Catholic Fatwa?

5 posted on 10/22/2001 10:13:21 PM PDT by Mike Darancette
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To: Mike Darancette
No. The Church is a moral guide. It does not issues fatwa's.
6 posted on 10/22/2001 10:17:04 PM PDT by Slyfox
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To: Mike Darancette
No, it's just a "if you're Catholic, it's ok to kick some Taliban butt."
7 posted on 10/22/2001 10:22:48 PM PDT by jrherreid
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To: Mike Darancette
Would this be considered a Catholic Fatwa?

What has happened to Americans that they can't think any more clearly than this?

The Cardinal is correcting the suicidal Christian pacifists' errors. He is not advocating retaliation. He is not advocating deliberately killing non-Christian civilians wherever they exist. The later of course would parallel the muslim clerics' fatwas.

8 posted on 10/22/2001 10:25:20 PM PDT by Havisham
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"Would this be considered a Catholic Fatwa?"

No but I appreciate the humor. Hahahaha!

9 posted on 10/22/2001 10:31:15 PM PDT by Theresa
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To: grimalkin
The only problem is that I can't find anything in the gospel that condones violence for any reason.

The gospel has the long term solution to our present problem in the admonition to take the gospel to all nations and convert them. But as for short term survival solutions, I haven't found any so far. Can anyone else?

10 posted on 10/22/2001 10:32:22 PM PDT by patriciaruth
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To: Mike Darancette
lol
11 posted on 10/22/2001 10:41:39 PM PDT by KQQL
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To: grimalkin
Bravo ! Cardinal Anthony Bevilacqua
12 posted on 10/22/2001 10:42:02 PM PDT by KQQL
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To: patriciaruth
BTTT
13 posted on 10/22/2001 10:45:08 PM PDT by Cultural Jihad
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To: grimalkin
". . . the military defense of our country against unjust aggression is not only a right, it becomes a duty . . ."

This is something that nobody seems to understand these days. It is also the reason why Roman Catholic moral teachings have been able to withstand intense scrutiny through the ages -- because they are founded on very solid principles and do not offer much latitude. In other words, there is only one answer to each question.

14 posted on 10/22/2001 10:49:54 PM PDT by Alberta's Child
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To: patriciaruth
The only problem is that I can't find anything in the gospel that condones violence for any reason.

When Christ came upon the money-changers in the temple, He didn't even bother trying to bring His own Gospel to them. He took a whip and drove them out of there.

15 posted on 10/22/2001 10:52:08 PM PDT by Alberta's Child
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"If the Christian Religion forbade war altogether, those who sought salutary advice in the Gospel would rather have been counselled to cast aside their arms, and to give up soldiering altogether. On the contrary, they were told: 'Do violence to no man . . . and be content with your pay' [Lk. 3:14. If he commanded them to be content with their pay, he did not forbid soldiering." -Augustine of Hippo [Ep. ad Marcel. cxxxviii]:
Incidentally, violence is a pejorative word. "Force" is a neutral word, and like a gun is simply a tool. It is in its use or abuse that its moral use is to be judged. Violence implies violation, and is wicked in itself. But force, in the service of justice and charity, is at times a Christian duty.
16 posted on 10/22/2001 11:08:46 PM PDT by Dumb_Ox
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To: Havisham
What has happened to Americans that they can't think any more clearly than this?

DEF: Fatwa - a legal opinion or decree handed down by an Islamic religious leader.

Of itself a fatwa can be on any issue not just death to infidels. One difference I see is that Muslims pay more attention to their leaders.

One other difference being that the Catholic Church has an infallible Pope who can put a lid on the Bishops and Cardinals.

That said, sending people out to kill and die in the name of any God seems to me to be a bad idea.

17 posted on 10/22/2001 11:44:31 PM PDT by Mike Darancette
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To: Mike Darancette
Of itself a fatwa can be on any issue not just death to infidels. One difference I see is that Muslims pay more attention to their leaders.

One other difference being that the Catholic Church has an infallible Pope who can put a lid on the Bishops and Cardinals.

Unresponsive to my question. You're being too cute by half and you have even less sensible to say about the Catholic Church. I wish the Pope would issue ex cathedra but you will never see it happen.

18 posted on 10/23/2001 12:25:58 AM PDT by Havisham
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To: Alberta's Child
Don't get me wrong, but because Christ has the authority to judge and punish the money changers violating God's house does not mean we do.
Christians are admonished often not to concern themselves about the problems of earthly kingdoms but to keep their eyes on the kingdom of Heaven.
This is not a glib question with me. It has become a crisis of conscience that I do not recommend anyone follow me in, but which I would appreciate any help in understanding. I do not know if my rabid American patriotism is compatible with my commitment to Jesus Christ. It may come down to the difficulty of serving both God and mammon.
19 posted on 10/23/2001 1:09:19 AM PDT by patriciaruth
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To: patriciaruth
Luke 22:36
20 posted on 10/23/2001 3:01:17 AM PDT by ccmay
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