Posted on 10/25/2001 5:45:41 PM PDT by RMrattlesnake
Does Islam mean: Peace? By Darren Morrison No! Islam does not mean peace it means submission. Oh you will have peace if you submit to their will. George Bush has lied to us when he said Islam means peace and so has everyone else in the media who tells us that. The Bible says in Jeremiah 6:14 They have healed also the hurt of the daughter of my people slightly, saying, Peace, peace; when there is no peace. Islam is a false religion. They worship a war God the Babylonian moon god. In other words Muslims worship Satan. We are not at war with Afghanistan we are in a jihad. Jihad means holy war but there is nothing holy about it. Jihad is evil like Nazism and Marxism. At least 75% of the Muslims are part of this Jihad even those in our country. Our enemy is all around us. The Quran demands that they rid the world of infidels and they will have peace. I have this on very good sources. Our government has been lying about this problem for a long time. I can remember back in 1980 with the Iran hostage situation. That problem was much worse than the government had let on. Then there was the war between Iran and Iraq we supported Iraq and helped instigate that war. After the war was over our support backfired when Iraq invaded Kuwait. Then we had the Gulf war a big show down and a way to bring about world support. It was then when George Bush senior made the slip of the tongue when he mentioned the New World Order. That is what this is all about. The world bankers are using Islam as useful idiots. Then we had the war in Bosnia that was also connected with this. The money trail and those involved were not only Afghanis they were connected with Sudan, Egypt, Kuwait, Qatar, Bosnia, Jordan, Saudi Arabia, Iraq and others as well as Muslims living right here in the USA. Yes a lot of this is centered on Israel. Palestinians dance in the streets in the aftermath. They rejoice in the death of people who were not Muslims. The biggest lie in the media centers around this issue. Palestinians have been setting car bombs in shopping malls, restaurants and schools. Then when Israel fires on military targets they yell foul. They act as though they are victims of this war. But the Palestinian Muslims are the ones doing the carnage. There are other victims of the Jihad in Israel. Those are the Christian Palestinians. They are not involved in this war but the Muslims are killing them and torture them only because they are not Muslim. Christians are murdered in Israel and there is not a single report. The media pretends it didnt even happen. But it did and still is. Now what about the killing, of defenseless Christians by Muslims in Sudan. There were whole villages in Sudan where everyone was killed and the village burned to the ground. Then those who were not killed were sold into slavery by state sponsored slave markets. The United Nations was informed and they did nothing to stop this terror and gross violation of human rights. To pour more salt on the wounds of Christians Sudan was put on the counsel on Human Rights by the United Nations and the United States was kicked off. If that fact does not convince you that the United Nation is anti-Christian then you are a complete fool and a total moron. The Palestinians will not be happy with there own state. They want every Jew in their area dead. Israel has done every thing they could do to create peace but Palestine will not have peace until the infidels leave all of Israel. Arafat said he would not rest until every Jew in the world is dead. If you think giving Palestine their own statehood will bring about peace you are fools. These Muslim in Palestine are evil and they have hate that burns hot like the fire in a furnace. Here is what the Quran says: Surah 8, (Al-Anfal) promises that God will bestow victory to the Muslims against outlandish odds. 8:60 Against them make ready your strength to the utmost of your power, including steeds of war, to strike terror into (the hearts of) the enemies, of God and your enemies, and others besides, whom ye may not know, but whom God doth know. Whatever ye shall spend in the cause of God, shall be repaid unto you, and ye shall not be treated unjustly. 8:65 O apostle! rouse the believers to the fight. If there are twenty amongst you, patient and persevering, they will vanquish two hundred: if a hundred, they will vanquish a thousand of the unbelievers: for these are a people without understanding. Surah 9:29 Fight those who believe not in God nor the Last Day, nor hold that forbidden which hath been forbidden by God and His apostle, nor acknowledge the religion of truth, (even if they are) of the People of the Book, until they pay the Jizya with willing submission, and feel themselves subdued. The Taliban is not some far out sect of Islam it is perhaps a more pure form of Islam. Danger still exist here in this country A insider in the evil circles of Islam is Louis Farrakhan. Farrakhan has preach hostility to the Jews for years and recently has done the same to Christians. If this is not a good argument to be armed then I dont know what is. Jihad has been declared on the people of the United States whether you like it or not. It is time to arm your self to buy guns and ammo. It is time to get that concealed weapons permit you were putting off. The more armed American out there the safer we will be. Jihad is nothing new. That is how Islam had spread. All the countries that are now Islamic were taken in a war or jihad. Afghanistan was once a Buddhist country but by force it was taken in a bloody war against people who would not submit. Turkey was a Christian country were the Byzantine Church once was but in a war people were killed who would not convert and submit to Islam whole cities were destroyed. North Africa even in Spain but thankfully the Spaniards were able to hold them off and defeat then. In India the Muslims would not get along with Hindus and Gandhi had to create Pakistan to stop their killing of Hindus. In the Philippines I have talked to people that live in fear because Muslims are trying to do the same thing there. Islam spreads though Jihad not by peaceful means. The Liberals in this country call Fundamental Christians intolerant because we do not except the beliefs of other faiths or accept gays. But fundamentalist Christians dont kill in order to expand their flock. Just because someone is from the Middle East, North Africa or from other Islamic countries does not mean they are our enemy. Many people have left that region because of the cruel and inhumane life there. Dont count out the Marxists. There is a growing faction of a Islamic version of communism the biggest push behind Palestinian terror. The PLO is a pro-Marxist organization. But dont be fooled because The Marxists are only using Muslims as what Carl Marks had called useful idiots. In order to set in place a One World Government. I am not anti-Arab but I am anti-Islam and if you call this intolerant then I guess the truth is intolerant. If a Muslim happens to read this there is hope. You will burn in hell if you worship Allah he is a false god. He is not the god of Abraham. You must reject Islam and repent then pray to Jesus the son of the only true God. Ask Jesus into your heart. That is the only way to heaven.
I don't envy Bush in this. And I don't believe that he's speaking his heart with this "islam is peace" malarky.
He has the view from the top, and it may be that the malignancy called 'islam' is poised to strangle civilization in ways that we can't imagine.
He may well be walking a tightrope with billions of lives forfeit should he slip.
Yes, but if your enemy declares a religious war on you, you have no choice but to join it. You can indulge yourself in wishful thinking for the time being, but the sooner you face the reality, the better chance for winning you have. By the way, it is not ALL Islam that we are at war with so far, we are at war with Islamism, which is an especially dangerous strain of Islam. Here is a useful analogy - Islam : Islamism :: Homosexuality : Pederasty
You're a little late. We're already in one.
America's Fifth Column ... watch PBS documentary JIHAD! In America -- here
1) How moving to find an atheist who is opposed to "religious bigotry" (even if it is limited to "bigotry" on behalf of Jews).
2) If the world is a self-existent, random, meaningless entity, then no one has any business saying what it needs or doesn't need. Right and wrong are not the product of Hellenistic extrapolation from the self to "the good, the true, and the beautiful," but rather of arbitrary Divine decree. Ultimately, "thou shalt not kill" is just as much a sectarian cultic prohibition as "it is forbidden to eat the meat of a sacrifice before the blood has been sprinkled round the altar." Which is why people who demand "separation of church and state" without demanding the repeal of all laws against murder contradict themselves.
It's amazing the ideals and theories people who don't believe in G-d can come up with to give their random, meaningless lives some sort of meaning. You'd almost think they don't really believe Copernicus' assertion that the earth isn't the center of the universe. They live as though it is. If it weren't, why believe in anything? Why have any ideals? Any goals?
Don't tell me that truth, independent of G-d, has some sort of inherent moral force.
For millenia...
There isn't enough room on this planet for these demon-worshippers, and the rest of mankind.
The time to destroy a nest of wasps under the eave of your house is early on, before the vermin build and multiply.
We've broken that rule.
All too true. Those who don't learn the lessons of history...
Your are absolutely correct. Although our government may not be at war with Muslums, the righteous world is, or will be at war with them. Remember, at the end, there will be a great battle between good and evil. It is increasingly clear that the battle lines are being drawn and it is also clear who is on which side, and indeed, which side is which.
Long Answer: From its inception as a religion, Islam has spread itself by the sword. Muhammed himself led violent military campaigns as did his successors. In the end, each served a single goal, that being expanding Islam by force.
Many here and elsewhere have expressed criticism of the European Crusades by claiming them to be the root of the west's problem with Islam. Though the crusades had their high and low points (the latter ones were corrupt in many parts), they are not to blame. What is to blame is the fact that Islam forcefully spread itself into the Judeo-Christian Holy Land and nearby ex-Roman territory in north africa a few centuries prior. Pre-islamic civilizations there, many of them christians as was the religion of Rome in the later days of the empire, had a highly advanced scholarly environment. Quite literally, Athens' famed scholastic community relocated into Syria and northern africa during the period between the end of Rome and the beginning of Mohammedism. Islam swept through that region and briefly picked up Western scholarship, which then drifted across northern africa (by the sword, of course), and into spain (again by the sword) where it transfered back to European hands just around the time Islam adopted the radical literalist-fundamentalist movement that keeps them in the 12th century to this day.
Shortly thereafter, Islam advanced (by the sword yet again) on Constantinople, which, plagued by centuries of parking crusaders, finally fell in the 1450's. At the same time, Constantinople's scholarly community fled to italy sparking the italian renaissance. Islam's ever present expansion by way of violence continued into Europe before finally being repulsed near Vienna in the 1600's. During their invasion force, they left their backward anti-scholarship culture of violence behind in the Balkans, which of course we are still dealing with today.
So yes, Islam DOES NOT stand for peace. Islam, at least since the 12th century and to some degree before that, stands for forceful expansion and coercion of an extremely fundamentalist anti-scholarly and downright backwards strain of a complex and often absurd religious system.
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