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Dallas Conspiracy - Pardon me, but #2 (Eureka - I finally found it! - My Title)
http://mhkeehn.tripod.com/sj2c.pdf ^ | 8/1968 (Repubished 1992) | Nord Davis

Posted on 10/28/2001 7:45:47 AM PST by Bill Rice

Here's a VERY interesting read for all Kennedy assasination buffs!

It addition to raising many good questions, it points out discrepancies in the published Zaprudder pictures in Life magazine, before and after the Warren Report. (Stuff I've never seen mentioned elsewhere!) It includes the published frames in question. This article is in PDF format, so you'll need to get it from the site. You may have to right click do a and "save as".


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I read this publication in 68, and have been searching for it for years. This guy shows how Zappruder pictures have been retouched to support the Warren Commision "findings"

I FINALLY found it online! I had to right click and do a "save as" to get it.

Comments?

1 posted on 10/28/2001 7:45:47 AM PST by Bill Rice
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To: Bill Rice
I'd like to see this file, but Tripod says it can't show it. Something to do with remote loading??
2 posted on 10/28/2001 7:53:24 AM PST by NatureGirl
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To: NatureGirl
Did you try to right click and "save as"?
You'll need to have adobe reader or writer to load it.
3 posted on 10/28/2001 8:05:54 AM PST by Bill Rice
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Whoa .. This is work, but here's a small part of it:

The Warren Hearings revealed that his trip (Oswald and family getting here from Russia), and some future monetary needs, were provided by a special State Department loan, personally cleared by the Secretary of State Dean Rusk. Dean Rusk, for you younger readers, had always been in the Marxist movements around the world since the days he served in China in what would later become the CIA. Rusk, according to the House Committee on Un-American Activities, Appendix Part 9, identifies Dean Rusk as a Director of the Communist Front known as the "Institute for Pacific Relations."

I found it in text, but it's originally in 3 columbs - too hard to post.

The whole PDF is 44 pages long.

4 posted on 10/28/2001 8:43:38 AM PST by Bill Rice
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To: Bill Rice
The people who believe that Oswald didn't do it won't change their minds and the people who believe that Oswald did do it won't change either.

I've shot too many rifles and too many targets to think that the Zapruder film shows a shot from the front, let alone to ignore the wounds and the fact that the two bullet fragments landed at the front of the limo.

5 posted on 10/28/2001 8:59:00 AM PST by Shooter 2.5
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This guy shows how Zappruder pictures have been retouched to support the Warren Commision "findings"

There is a recent book with similar information.

Murder in Dealy Plaza,
edited by James H. Fetzer, Ph.D.,
Catfeet Press, published 2000,
ISBN 0-8126-9422-8
468pp, $19.95 in paperback

6 posted on 10/28/2001 9:28:24 AM PST by nolu chan
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To: Bill Rice
Communist propaganda.
7 posted on 10/28/2001 9:32:54 AM PST by Fred25
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To: Bill Rice
The Zapruder film has not been altered. Tony Marsh is as conspiracy oriented as they come and he has written an article proving its authenticity.

See it here: Proof that the Zapruder film is authentic

Bottom line, there have been a lot of people writing books about things they didn't know about or that presented lies in order to "prove" a conspiracy. Most people don't have the information needed to know which things are true and which aren't, so they get away with it.

8 posted on 10/28/2001 9:49:31 AM PST by mlo
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Did you guys download the PDF and check it out? I personally went to the library in Jr. High, and dug out the Life Magazines - pre and post Warren Commission.

There IS a difference on the Zappruder frames this guy is talking about. There's a woman who appears to be cut down as she steps in front of a shooter. After the Warren Report, she's been airbrushed out. But they missed her scarf!

This guy's theory dovetails quite nicely with the book "Double Cross", by Chuck Giancana (Sam Giancana's son) It's the best explanation I've found. (I'm not stupid enough to believe Oswald was capable of getting off all those shots THAT quick, and THAT accurately.)

BYW Fred, Nord Davis is WAY to far to the right to be called a communist, or in anyway equated with communist propaganda.

Flame away - but download this pdf and read it first!

9 posted on 10/28/2001 1:45:04 PM PST by Bill Rice
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Just consider what this guy is claiming. It really shouldn't pass your BS detector. He is claiming at least one guy with an automatic pistol stood in the middle of Dealey Plaza, which was filled with hundreds of witnesses, and not only shot the President but killed an innocent bystander! And you don't see a problem with that story?

Look, this is all based on two still frames from a movie film. What you see when you actually watch the film is that those people he thinks disappeared are moving. The little girl is running to the right to keep up with the car. There are other people moving around, including the woman that supposedly got shot. They are not airbrushed out, they just moved between the two frames.

This is one of wackiest theories I've seen yet, and that's saying a lot. You really need to be more critical of the nonsense you can find out there.

10 posted on 10/28/2001 2:13:47 PM PST by mlo
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"(I'm not stupid enough to believe Oswald was capable of getting off all those shots THAT quick, and THAT accurately"

Like I haven't heard that one before. I don't seem to have a problem knowing that CBS, the FBI and the NRA all were able to make that shot. The shot you say is so impossible was made with the first shot starting the clock and the next 2 being completed in 8 seconds at the longest range at 88 yards. Maybe you should go to a gunrange and try it yourself. Use a 6MM Swiss Mauser if you can't find a Carcano.

11 posted on 10/28/2001 2:21:23 PM PST by Shooter 2.5
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I've shot too many rifles and too many targets to think that the Zapruder film shows a shot from the front, let
alone to ignore the wounds and the fact that the two bullet fragments landed at the front of the limo.

And if you shoot someone in the back of the head does the head snap backward like Kennedy's did?

 America's Fifth Column ... watch PBS documentary JIHAD! In America -- here

12 posted on 10/28/2001 2:34:28 PM PST by JCG
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And if you shoot someone in the back of the head does the head snap backward like Kennedy's did?

It didn't. It snapped forward in the first frame after being hit then he fell backward more slowly. I don't know why it is supposed to be so strange that he would fall backward after being shot when he is sitting in a car. The motion was not caused by a bullet.

13 posted on 10/28/2001 2:42:28 PM PST by mlo
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We’ve studied all this stuff very carefully. It is extremely easy to make up a “conspiracy” story, and conspiracy stories sell more books than non-conspiracy stories.

Anyway, I knew Oswald before the assassination. I met him when I worked for WDSU TV in New Orleans in August of 1963. He was a strong Marxist who wanted to be a “revolutionary” leader, but he couldn’t get any followers. It’s a long story.

The Communist “conspiracy” propaganda was so good, even the right wingers began to believe it. We, today in America, are still suffering from the results of Communist propaganda that was pushed on us in the media in the past. This “multi-culturalism” crap in the US began with Communist propaganda. Many of the “revolutionary” movements in the world today began with Communist propaganda. England gave up India and Pakastan as colonies because of Communist propaganda. Now they’ve got a-bombs and are threatening to blow each other up. You need to study Communist history to see how we got in some of these messes we are in now.

14 posted on 10/28/2001 3:06:14 PM PST by Fred25
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To: JCG
I have a video that shows an actual skull jumping forward after the shot. Everything I have ever shot through and through always had a small entrance hole and a large exit hole. The Zapruder film shows spray going forward and the governor slamming into the divider at the head shot. The two bullet fragments were found at the front of the vehicle, one cracking the windshield and the other the chrome, and the trajectory is correct to the sixth floor.
15 posted on 10/28/2001 3:13:27 PM PST by Shooter 2.5
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To: Bill Rice
There is nothing to download at the link you gave us.
16 posted on 10/28/2001 3:14:53 PM PST by Fred25
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To: Bill Rice
The best place to find discrepancies between scenes in the Zapruder film and the other films and still photographs taken that day is in a photo comparison display in the book MURDER IN DEALEY PLAZA. A study of this comparison raises many questions about the extant Zapruder film. There is also an interesting chapter about the work of the National Photographic Interpretation Center on the film shortly after it was developed. The NPIC is an affiliate of the CIA, and the Secret Service tasked them with interpreting the film for purposes of establishing shot timing and sequencing. The men responsible for this project were interviewed by the FEDERAL GOVERNMENT body, the Assassination Records Review Board (ARRB). Homer McMahon of the NPIC stated in his ARRB interview that he informed the Secret Service that Kennedy was struck "six to eight times from at least three different directions."
17 posted on 10/28/2001 3:15:05 PM PST by roughrider
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How did the Harper skull fragment end up BEHIND the limo? The Harper fragment was OCCIPITAL BONE, a bone found in the REAR portion of the skull. How did Dallas motorcycle outrider Billy Hargis get sprayed with blood and brain matter when he was riding BEHIND the President?
18 posted on 10/28/2001 3:17:58 PM PST by roughrider
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To: Shooter 2.5
The Zapruder film shows spray going forward and the governor slamming into the divider at the head shot.

The spray could not have "gone forward" and still hit Dallas Officer Hargis, who was riding his motorcycle to the rear of the limousine, to the extent Hargis thought he had been hit. When photographic evidence conflicts with physical evidence, the photographic evidence is rejected.

19 posted on 10/28/2001 3:21:19 PM PST by roughrider
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The Harper fragment did not end up behind the limo. This is one of those many factual distortions that got perpetrated over the years. It was found to the south of the limo. Someone mistakenly assumed south meant behind, wrote about it, and lo, we have a new "fact". South was forward and to the left.
20 posted on 10/28/2001 3:22:53 PM PST by mlo
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