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Three held in anthrax raid
Guardian/UK ^ | 11/05/01 | Audrey Gillan in New York and Duncan Campbell in Los Angeles

Posted on 11/04/2001 8:30:08 PM PST by kattracks

The FBI was last night holding three men in the Trenton area of New Jersey, where anthrax-laced letters mailed to the US Senate majority leader, Tom Daschle, and members of the media were posted. One of the men was reported to have been seen carrying a plastic bag containing letters.

Agents have also searched two apartments near the post office where the letters were sent. A neighbour said he had reported one of the detained men after seeing him carrying a bag containing letters. The man had held the bag away from his body and "placed it real slow" on the passenger seat of his car.

The man was identified as Allah Rakha by his brother, Ilyas Chaudry. FBI agents seized several bags of potential evidence from the flat.

Anthrax-laced letters have killed four people in Florida, Washington and New York and infected 13 others.

The FBI is increasingly focusing on the possibility that an American "lone wolf" or domestic extremists may be responsible. Agents are also considering whether the anthrax could have come from a university laboratory.

"We're looking domestic," a Bush administration official told the Los Angeles Times, referring to the source of the attacks. "If it were international we would have seen something in the [intelligence monitoring] traffic and we've seen nothing."

The latest anthrax scare was at a war veterans' hospital in Washington, where five mailroom staff were being treated as a precaution after signs of the bacteria were found there.

The FBI is said to be focusing on potential sources of domestic anthrax. Agents are subpoenaing the records of university laboratories where anthrax was stored.

The authorities are also finalising plans to decontaminate the Senate office building where the anthrax letter to Mr Daschle was opened. The plan involves filling the nine-storey building with chlorine dioxide.


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1 posted on 11/04/2001 8:30:08 PM PST by kattracks
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To: kattracks
"We're looking domestic," a Bush administration official told the Los Angeles Times, referring to the source of the attacks. "If it were international we would have seen something in the [intelligence monitoring] traffic and we've seen nothing."

My God, this had better be disinformation, I can't believe that someone hired by the Bush Administration could be so illogical. On the other hand, a Clinton holdover in the FBI might well really believe this, liberals don't understand probability and inference.

2 posted on 11/04/2001 8:33:04 PM PST by VeritatisSplendor
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To: VeritatisSplendor
They arrest someone whose first name is "Allah", but they are "looking domestic"? Does this seem peculiar to anyone else here?
3 posted on 11/04/2001 8:36:13 PM PST by Plutarch
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To: kattracks
'"We're looking domestic," a Bush administration official told the Los Angeles Times, referring to the source of the attacks. "If it were international we would have seen something in the [intelligence monitoring] traffic and we've seen nothing."'

So what intel do you have suggesting it's domestic? Nothing? Morons!!!!

And how do they think this Anthrax got to Pakistan too? There aren't any right-wing militia's in Pakistan.

5 posted on 11/04/2001 8:39:36 PM PST by Bogey78O
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To: VeritatisSplendor
Haven't you people noticed that they're stubborning pointing to "domestic" terrorists even though all evidence points to Iraq. Obviously it is on purpose, whatever their motivation may be.
6 posted on 11/04/2001 8:42:10 PM PST by Constitution Scholar
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To: Plutarch
They arrest someone whose first name is "Allah", but they are "looking domestic"? Does this seem peculiar to anyone else here?

I think the term 'domestic" is nothing more than the origin of the anthrax not the nationality. The guys they are holding are NOT militia members but they may have NO connection to Bin Laden beyond sympathy with his cause and are now acting on it.

7 posted on 11/04/2001 8:43:20 PM PST by Texasforever
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To: VeritatisSplendor
Of course it's disinformation. Haven't you noticed the trend?: Care to extrapolate the next story in this unfolding tapestry of fictions?
8 posted on 11/04/2001 8:46:29 PM PST by Clinton's a rapist
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To: overseer5
If I remember correctly, acutally Atta and other's in the Al-Qaida cell rented an apartment from the wife of a different editor at American Media. It was not the wife of Bob Stevens, but I am sure Atta and the other crazies targeted American Media anyway. Bob Stevens was just a random victim at this target, as well as Ernesto Blanco, who was just a mailroom worker, who happens to be recovering right now.
9 posted on 11/04/2001 8:47:10 PM PST by lmr
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To: Clinton's a rapist
Ask the man on the street where he thinks the Anthrax came from and you get some weird answers. When Bob Stevens, at American Media died, my dad believed the stories about him catching it because he was an avid outdoorsman. People believe anything the liberal media tells them. I think the Liberal media really believes it too.
10 posted on 11/04/2001 8:50:04 PM PST by lmr
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To: VeritatisSplendor
Looking domestic probably means that they believe the letters were mailed from within the U.S. and so whoever mailed them is probably still in the U.S. It does not necessarily rule out that those behind it, besides the deliverers, may be in another country.
11 posted on 11/04/2001 8:50:23 PM PST by slimer
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To: Clinton's a rapist
The Anthrax came from a fraternal group at a Colorado High School which calls themselves the Trench Coat Mafia? Remember the Columbine massacre? The liberal media spread that lie as well, it was later debunked as the perpetrators were no longer members of that group and had not been for some time.
12 posted on 11/04/2001 8:52:55 PM PST by lmr
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To: Texasforever
I agree with your reading of the statement. If he meant conventional right-wing extremists - like Christian Identity/Larry Wayne Harris/Aryan Nations - he would have said that.

In context, the term domestic sounds like the attack was not directly ordered from some location overseas. I suspect the terrorist cells work under the same principle as the Louis Beam (Aryan Nation) Leaderless Cells concept, so a universal "call to action" made by Osama bin Laden would be the same thing as a "balloon" going up.

13 posted on 11/04/2001 8:54:27 PM PST by Alamo-Girl
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To: Bogey78O
Has it been considered that by saying they are looking at domestic sources that has nothing to do with who may have been responsible? I mean, looking at domestic sources does not count out aliens living here.
14 posted on 11/04/2001 8:54:54 PM PST by MistyCA
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To: VeritatisSplendor
"If it were international we would have seen something in the [intelligence monitoring] traffic and we've seen nothing."

Makes sense to me. But it could be a lone Islamist. Somebody not connected to bin Laden or his organization but who is sympathetic with them. Somebody who is not ready for prime time, a reject from the training camps maybe. They don't take everybody who wants to join.

15 posted on 11/04/2001 8:55:48 PM PST by Theresa
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To: Bogey78O
I was listening to Michael Reagan yesterday and I was very surprised to hear him say he believes the perps are home grown. That statement makes it less doubtful what is meant by it, as compared to some others who have said they are looking at domestic sources. Plus, right from the beginning they have been linking the anthrax strain to Iowa. I still say that domestic sources, including the lab in Iowa, does not preclude aliens within our borders.
16 posted on 11/04/2001 9:00:35 PM PST by MistyCA
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To: mystomachisturning
Read it in context. He implies that there was no overseas involvement. That implies a domestic group of Americans hatching the plan with no direction from a foreign group. IE. Domestic terrorism ie. Timothy McVeigh.
17 posted on 11/04/2001 9:05:12 PM PST by Bogey78O
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To: mystomachisturning
Plus, right from the beginning they have been linking the anthrax strain to Iowa. I still say that domestic sources, including the lab in Iowa, does not preclude aliens within our borders.

I've freaking had it with everyone who makes it sound like this strain of antrax came off a shelf in a lab in Ames, Iowa and was sprinkled around in a mailroom in Florida, and put in envelopes. The only fact about this strain of anthrax is that it was discovered in Iowa in the 1950's and was cultured and shared world-wide with other labs. It could have come from anywhere. It is highly unlikely it came from here.

18 posted on 11/04/2001 9:11:20 PM PST by Keith in Iowa
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To: Bogey78O
So what intel do you have suggesting it's domestic? Nothing? Morons!!!!

Bush has known where the anthrax came from for weeks. He cannot point the finger, because as soon as he does that, it becomes clear to everyone that we are being blackmailed by the threat of biowar from Iraq. That is not a good position for the President of the United States to be in. If it proves impossible to keep the lid on that fact until we can take the appropriate protective measures for a confrontation with Saddam, then it must at least be allowed to enter public consciousness slowly and diffused by a smokescreen of spin and rumor. I do not blame Bush for this misdirection campaign. We have a knife at our throats, and our only option is to play for time. Nevertheless, if you want to understand what's really happening, use logic and critical thinking, rather than taking government statements at face value.

Of course the anthrax is from the 9/11 terrorists. Aside from the Iraq scenario, the only possibility that has a reasonable chance of being true is that OBL is freelancing the anthrax campaign. Several factors argue against that scenario:

Think about it. What is happening here is not complicated, and the actions of all the players make perfect sense when you have the right model.
19 posted on 11/04/2001 9:15:25 PM PST by Clinton's a rapist
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To: Alamo-Girl; *Anthrax_Scare_List; Texasforever
I think the cell is a domestic cell.

There are probably also domestic training cells run by bin Laden's organization just like those just reported to exist in Scotland!

See this:

Terrorist camp discovered in Hebron, Wales

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20 posted on 11/04/2001 9:18:48 PM PST by Ernest_at_the_Beach
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