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Potter magic fails to work on American Christians
Ananova ^ | November 9, 2001 | Ananova

Posted on 11/9/2001, 10:58:40 AM by MadIvan

Conservative Christian critics in the US claim Harry Potter leads children to witchcraft and sin.

The books top the banned book listing for 2000, compiled by the American Library Association.

Other Christians insist the stories are harmless fantasies about magic and morals.

"I'm so tired of people saying he's evil," said Connie Neal, a Christian author who has investigated the Potter claims. "They're choosing to interpret the books in a very selective way."

Richard Abanes, author of Harry Potter And The Bible: The Menace Behind The Magick, said: "Although the story is fictional, Harry Potter has real-world occult parallels.

"The books present astrology, numerology, mediumship, crystal gazing," he said. "Kids are enthralled with it. And kids like to copy."

"There's a real religious concern," said Jana Riess of Publishers Weekly, who moderated an Abanes-Neal debate at a convention of Christian retailers. "Evangelical Christians believe that witchcraft is real."

But, she said, witchcraft in the Potter novels "is not a worldview in the way evangelicals would think of it." She likens the fuss to parallel complaints when The Wizard Of Oz was published a century ago.

Harry Potter author JK Rowling calls the accusations "absurd," saying Harry Potter's world is entirely imaginary: "I have met thousands of children now, and not even one time has a child come up to me and said, 'Ms Rowling, I'm so glad I've read these books because now I want to be a witch'."

Though more than 50 million copies are in print worldwide, there has been no evidence of widespread conversions to paganism or witchcraft. Andy Norfolk of the London-based Pagan Federation, said the youth-aimed Potter books have created no serious interest in his movement because they don't appeal to older people seeking spiritual options who "see them as rather uncool."


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I really don't understand this. The King Arthur legends had Merlin the Magician in it, but no such objections were presented. Shakespare in "Macbeth" had three witches at the start of it, and no one objected. Bedknobs and Broomsticks had Angela Landsbury as a witch with "Poisoned Dragon's Liver" in her pantry. No one said a word. Why this in particular? It's just a story for goodness sake; and most parents are sensible enough to teach their kids the difference between fact and fiction. At least I hope they are.

Regards, Ivan

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LET US GO FORWARD TOGETHER

1 posted on 11/9/2001, 10:58:40 AM by MadIvan
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To: MomwithHope; lainde; Brian Allen; Vigilanteman; Chemist_Geek; Churchillspirit; BlessedBeGod...
Bump!
2 posted on 11/9/2001, 10:59:39 AM by MadIvan
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To: MadIvan; Aquinasfan; fearnot
Ivan: not everyone shares our peculiarly British fondness for Potter.


3 posted on 11/9/2001, 11:04:23 AM by jjbrouwer
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To: jjbrouwer
I am actually thoroughly indifferent to Harry Potter; I am just pointing out there is an inconsistency here - previous stories of myths and magic did not create these charges of encouraging occultism, why this story in particular? Why now?

Regards, Ivan
4 posted on 11/9/2001, 11:06:43 AM by MadIvan
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To: MadIvan
I think because there is such a commercial hype of the book, and because it has become the hottest fad in the elementary schools, evangelical Christians are alarmed.

I don't like the books, but my objections are not about the magic. I have read two of them, and I find them age-inappropriate for the target market. But I am not going to call for book-banning. Parents need to exercise their own judgement.

I think it is difficult for those who don't understand the beliefs of evangelical Christians to understand their antipathy. To those believers, these books are an "in-your-face" attack on their children. Merlin is from a different era, and right now isn't being marketed by movie studios and Hallmark cards.

5 posted on 11/9/2001, 11:08:22 AM by Miss Marple
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To: MadIvan
Wait until next weekend when the movie breaks all records. There is always someone on the sidelines complaining about something.
6 posted on 11/9/2001, 11:08:36 AM by ABC123
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To: MadIvan
Well, I tell you Ivan, I don't understand it either. I like Harry Potter and can't wait to see the movie or read the next edition. I find JK Rowling's real life story inspiring as well. She wrote the original in a cafe (in order to keep warm) didn't she?
7 posted on 11/9/2001, 11:09:14 AM by Prodigal Son
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To: Miss Marple
OK, but Lord of the Rings is coming soon, and that involves magic too - yet no hue and cry about it. I think that banning the books is a little extreme, it really should be up to parents to exercise their judgement.

Regards, Ivan
8 posted on 11/9/2001, 11:10:16 AM by MadIvan
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To: MadIvan


Shocking if true: What JK Rowling really looks like
9 posted on 11/9/2001, 11:11:09 AM by jjbrouwer
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To: MadIvan
Because they're so popular. It seems to be par for the course, what with the history of other such things that were denounced as "evil" during their respective times.

It often has a lot to do with not understanding something. When Dungeons and Dragons first came out, it garnered the same reactions that Harry Potter is garnering now. Given a couple of decades, they don't complain about it much anymore. Heck, my mom called D&D "evil" for a while, and now she plays Magic: The Gathering. It just takes a while for people to get used to things.

10 posted on 11/9/2001, 11:11:39 AM by Winged Elf
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To: jjbrouwer
That actually looks like Frank Zappa in drag. ;)

Regards, Ivan
11 posted on 11/9/2001, 11:11:44 AM by MadIvan
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To: *Christian_list
*Christian_list bump
12 posted on 11/9/2001, 11:12:11 AM by Khepera
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To: Winged Elf
Because they're so popular.

Bedknobs and Broomsticks was a fairly popular Disney film, but nothing I've seen suggests that it received this kind of treatement when it was released.

Odd.

Regards, Ivan
13 posted on 11/9/2001, 11:12:50 AM by MadIvan
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Bedknobs and Broomsticks had Angela Landsbury as a witch with "Poisoned Dragon's Liver" in her pantry.

Growing up, we weren't allowed to see that movie. Now, I occasionally read SciFi/Fantasy novels that broach the subject of (fictional) magic... but I'm glad my parents filtered out material that as a little kid, I could not.

14 posted on 11/9/2001, 11:14:52 AM by John Farson
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To: MadIvan
The saddest part of all this is that many Devil worshippers will now go to the film and be disappointed at the content. They seem to be the real victims here.
15 posted on 11/9/2001, 11:16:08 AM by jjbrouwer
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To: MadIvan
You missed growing up in the Bible Belt. ;-)
16 posted on 11/9/2001, 11:16:23 AM by John Farson
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To: MadIvan
My ten year old son has read all the Potter books, and has enjoyed them.

As his Mom and I have provided him with a firm Christian foundation, we're not worried that he'll be casting spells on anyone.

Most of the things kids do, say, and think are related to how they are raised.

We are proud of the way we are raising our son, and we will be proud of his accomplishments as he goes through life.

17 posted on 11/9/2001, 11:17:38 AM by Peter W. Kessler
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To: jjbrouwer
I hope that those who wish to ban Harry Potter realise that they are exponentially increasing its value to children by making a big fuss about it - they are turning a story into forbidden fruit by taking it so seriously.

Regards, Ivan
18 posted on 11/9/2001, 11:19:11 AM by MadIvan
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To: ABC123
Post #6 - - right on!

We need Harry Potter at this point in time to 'save the world' from deep dark depression. Harry will cheer up the children of the world this December and bring them joy, at least in their fantasyland dreams.

Go Harry! Go Hermione! We love you from the bottom of our seared and cynical hearts.

20 posted on 11/9/2001, 11:21:12 AM by slym
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