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Dear DU - Why Gore Lost - "Cheaters Never Win"
November 12, 2001 | parsifal

Posted on 11/12/2001, 10:03:05 PM by parsifal

Dear DU.com - Why Gore Lost Florida.

Now that the counting is done, many of you Democrats are working themselves into a tizzy over the Florida vote count. Supposedly, the chicanery of K Harris & Crew is to blame for Gore's loss. Republicans just "bullied" their way into the White House. Hogwash. Let me make it simple for you. Al Gore lost Florida because Al Gore acted like a typical Democrat, that is to say, HE CHEATED.

Yes, your beloved candidate was "hoist by his own petard." The LA Times has a very good article on the details of the recount, and you can go to Drudge and read it. And, I have to say, that if the "over-votes" had been re-counted, your man probably would have won. But, thankfully, we don't have to delve into the details because HE CHEATED!

Now you are probably growing indignant now, and stomping your feet. So let me explain. The only scenario by which Gore could have won was a complete, state-wide recount of the under-votes AND over-votes. The truth is, your candidate NEVER asked for such a recount. He only asked for a PARTIAL RECOUNT. Recall that Florida has 67 counties. Al Gore only asked that 4 Democratic counties be recounted. Al Gore did not care about the under-votes in the other counties. He didn't care about over-votes. In other words, he just wanted to recount enough Democratic votes to win. In other words, HE CHEATED!

Let me quote the LA Times article, "When Gore asked for recounts in four Democratic counties last November, his aides didn't realize at first that a potentially critical trove of over-votes lay elsewhere–in counties that used optical scanner ballots." and, "Nobody asked for a contest of the over-votes, explained [Gore's lawyer] Boies."

So you see, if Al Gore had been honest and not tried to just recount 4 DEMOCRATIC COUNTIES OUT OF 67 COUNTIES, he might have won. If Al Gore had cared about ALL the voters in Florida, he would have won. Too bad for you. HE CHEATED.

So while you are all getting your undies (non-gender-based-term!)in a wad, stop for just one moment. Step back. Take a deep breath. Lay all the trivial details to one side. Explain with a straight face how Al Gore could really think that re-counting just the Democratic under-votes in 4 of 67 counties was fair. You can't. And that's where Gore went wrong. HE CHEATED!


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I have always maintained that Al Gore was due his very own Aesop Fable for this action. Maybe I will write one.
1 posted on 11/12/2001, 10:03:06 PM by parsifal
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To: parsifal
I agree with your analysis. However, one really sad fact of life, which you shouldn't necessarily tell your children, is that cheaters do frequently win.
2 posted on 11/12/2001, 10:13:57 PM by KayEyeDoubleDee
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To: parsifal
I'm afraid they can't hear you over at DU: you see, they are all in their basket weaving classes putting in a little overtime because tomorrow is visitor's day.

By the way, did you hear about their new promotional slogan? It is "Do DU".

3 posted on 11/12/2001, 10:18:41 PM by Paul Atreides
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To: parsifal
I have always maintained that Al Gore was due his very own Aesop Fable for this action. Maybe I will write one.

Please flag me or freepmail me when you do, as I'd love to read it. Also, I found the perfect quote for it -- from Al Gore himself.
4 posted on 11/12/2001, 10:18:58 PM by summer
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To: parsifal
Those are the same people who think you are responsible for the anthrax cases... (remember?) why do you think they'll listen to you?

Hey, I know! "You've found me out; but I know where you live too! Now you better quit whining about Gore's nonexistant win!" ;-)

5 posted on 11/12/2001, 10:21:30 PM by Nataku X
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To: parsifal
I believe that had it not been for Clintax's corrupt administration, Al Gore would've won by a landslide. I never would've voted for him, but Clinton did get the undecideds during his 2-elections. I think that the the undecideds woke up for the most part last year.

If the Goron challenges President Bush in 2004, Albert will be tarred and feathered.

Clintax bragged for the better part of 8-years about a strong economy that he did not build. President Bush can lay out a clear record to have inherited a recession from the infidels that formerly occupied the White House.

6 posted on 11/12/2001, 10:28:24 PM by AlGone2001
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The ONLY way to count the votes, so that gore wins, is to select "divine interpretation" of the "intent of the voter". In other words, to cheat.
7 posted on 11/12/2001, 10:30:47 PM by CometBaby
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To: AlGone2001
I figger Elian screwed Gore in Florida. Probably turned some Cubans into pubbies. I think nationwide, you are right. Gore got tarred with the Clinton brush.
8 posted on 11/12/2001, 10:33:50 PM by parsifal
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To: CometBaby
True. But is there anybody anywhere who can defend counting 4 out of 67 counties as fair???
9 posted on 11/12/2001, 10:35:10 PM by parsifal
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Good letter, however, if all of the counties had been counted in the state, over and under, Gore still would not have won fairly since the ballots in question are not legal votes.
To be fair, the under and over ballots in the entire country would have to be counted and that might have been an entirely different story. In fact, Gore might have then lost his precious "popular vote majority!"
Main point, these ballots are disqualified in EVERY election, in every state, therefore Gore still lost no matter what!
10 posted on 11/12/2001, 10:44:54 PM by ladyinred
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To: parsifal
Please don't say or do anything that will help Democrats come to terms with the fact that Gore lost fair and square. I gain continual pleasure in their ongoing torment, at watching their self-righteous anger eat a hole in their guts, at hearing their wails and teeth gnashing every time Dubya makes the smallest goof.

Please everything in your power to keep reminding Democrats that the election was UNFAIRLY STOLEN from Gore by an evil cabal -- headed up by the MEDIA and the LABOR UNIONS! Because it's just so dang fun to hear them whine.

11 posted on 11/12/2001, 10:45:40 PM by Arleigh
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Oh it is fun to watch them degenerate intellectually into cheap party hacks - ala - "My guy, right or wrong!" but, in 3 plus years, this crap could turn into an urban legend. I think FR needs to counter the legend now. With our own simple legend: HE CHEATED.
12 posted on 11/12/2001, 10:53:34 PM by parsifal
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Cheaters never win? Remember JFK and the 1960 election... Mayor Daley dumping Nixon ballots into Lake Michigan?
13 posted on 11/12/2001, 10:55:24 PM by 11th Earl of Mar
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To: 11th Earl of Mar
I stand corrected. Cheaters sometimes lose. HE CHEATED.
14 posted on 11/12/2001, 10:59:22 PM by parsifal
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To: All
This from Drudgereport.com:

Bush would have narrowly prevailed in the partial recounts sought by Gore, but Gore could have "reversed the outcome -- by the smallest of margins -- had he pursued and gained a complete statewide recount," according to one interpretation of the database compiled by the monstermedia consortium. [Each media outlet will produce a news analysis based on the database product.]

Under any standard that counted all disputed votes in Florida, Gore erased Bush's advantage and emerged with a tiny lead that ranged from 42 to 171 votes.

Gore followed a legal strategy that would have led to his defeat even if it had not been rejected by the U.S. Supreme Court, according to one interpretation set for publication.

Gore sought a recount of a small number of disputed ballots while the review indicates his only chance lay in a course he advocated publicly but did not pursue in court -- a full statewide recount of untallied votes!

Gore took a 171-vote lead when the consortium tried to recreate how each county said it would handle a court-ordered statewide recount, and a 42-vote lead under what was called the "Palm Beach standard".

[Matt D. is a poet! I luv this guy!]

15 posted on 11/12/2001, 11:05:14 PM by parsifal
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To: parsifal
Maybe they can put their feelings in a lockbox and fughedaboutit!!!!!!!
16 posted on 11/12/2001, 11:19:21 PM by NC Conservative
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To: Paul Atreides
Doo-doo?
17 posted on 11/12/2001, 11:46:19 PM by stands2reason
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To: parsifal
They keep neglecting to mention the little discovery that came out of this recount today: Dems. disenfranchised Black Republicans.

GOP Was the Real Victim in Fla. Vote, John Lott-LA Times story, Black Republican ballots invalidated in Dem. precincts.

We can make a better case for Bush winning the popular vote than they can with all their long-winded excuses and wishful thinking.

18 posted on 11/12/2001, 11:47:19 PM by Ragtime Cowgirl
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To: stands2reason
Yep...a big steaming pile of it too.
19 posted on 11/12/2001, 11:51:22 PM by Paul Atreides
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"Under any standard that counted all disputed votes in Florida, Gore erased Bush's advantage and emerged with a tiny lead that ranged from 42 to 171 votes." (Drudge)

Oh yeah, Druge? I dispute the felon votes that the media seems to have forgotten about.

20 posted on 11/12/2001, 11:52:39 PM by rustbucket
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