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To Forestall a 'Digital Pearl Harbor,' U.S. Looks to System Separate From Internet
New York Times ^

Posted on 11/17/2001 11:08:10 AM PST by Asmodeus

Saturday November 17 08:55 AM EST
To Forestall a 'Digital Pearl Harbor,' U.S. Looks to System Separate From Internet
By ALISON MITCHELL

WASHINGTON, Nov. 16 The Bush administration is considering the creation of a secure new government communications network separate from the Internet that would be less vulnerable to attack and efforts to disrupt critical federal activities.

The idea for such a system, called GovNet, is the brainchild of Richard A. Clarke, a counterterrorism expert whom President Bush recently named his special adviser for cyberspace security.

Mr. Clarke, who has been warning for some time of the possibility of a "digital Pearl Harbor" if the nation does not invest more in cybersecurity, began working on the idea of a government network before the terrorist attacks of Sept. 11. But he says the attacks showed that it is imperative to imagine the ways terrorists could disrupt the nation's information infrastructure and the computer networks that control telecommunications, the electric grid, water supplies and air traffic.

"Prior to 9/11," he said in an interview, "there were a lot of people who thought that the only thing the terrorists could do is what they have already done. Now we know they can do something really catastrophic."

"The worst case here," he said of a cyberspace attack against the government, "is that we might not be able to communicate for essential government services. And it might happen at a time when we're at war. It might happen at a time when we're responding to terrorism."

Mr. Clarke said a critical question for the administration would be how much a government computer network would cost. No one is quite sure of that sum, although he speculated that it could be in the hundreds of millions of dollars.

Assessing the possibility of a separate computer network for the government is just one example of how the administration is looking toward technological advances to bolster homeland security, much as Ronald Reagan and now Mr. Bush turned to the idea of a missile defense system.

After examining devices for sensing radiation and chemical and biological agents, Tom Ridge, the director of homeland security, said this week that technology would be "at the heart of strategy" for making the nation more secure. Mr. Ridge is one of two officials to whom Mr. Clarke reports; the other is the president's national security adviser, Condoleezza Rice.

Prowling his office in the Old Executive Office Building, Mr. Clarke used a multicolored flowchart to describe a government communications system that would have its own routers, keeping it segregated from other computer users.

He envisions a system that would be strictly monitored and constantly scanned for viruses. "You would find abuse of the system early, you would limit it, you would stop it," he said.

Some in the technology industry fear what they see as the implications for the Internet: a separate cyberspace system for the government, they say, might create a trend in which other institutions as well would begin building their own networks separate from the Net. Civil libertarians, meanwhile, ask whether the idea would make the government less accessible to the people.

But Mr. Clarke said he did not see the system as a substitute for the Internet. Government agencies would simply be able to use two separate systems for varying functions, with the non-Internet system employed by federal agencies for the most essential needs requiring the greatest security. Some agencies, like the Energy Department, already have their own internal computer networks, on a smaller scale.

The administration has asked the industry to submit information by next week about how such a system might work and what it would cost. Industry officials say the request has sparked debate over everything from cost to technical feasibility to the implications for the Net.

"A lot of companies are putting various proposals together," said Harris N. Miller, president of the Information Technology Association of America. "I think you're going to see hundreds of companies submit comments."

As for cost, "some critics have said that this will be vastly expensive and is therefore folly," Mr. Clarke said at a recent conference sponsored by Microsoft. "If it turns out it will be vastly expensive, I suspect we won't do it, but we'll never know unless we ask."

Senator Ron Wyden, an Oregon Democrat interested in technology issues, said Congress too would want to weigh whether the benefit was worth the cost. "The question," Mr. Wyden said, "is whether for the same amount of money is it going to be possible to get these key agencies access to the Internet we already have in a secure way?"

Once the first information comes in next week, the ideas will be studied by a team of government experts as well as outside academics.


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1 posted on 11/17/2001 11:08:10 AM PST by Asmodeus
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To: Asmodeus
As for cost, "some critics have said that this will be vastly expensive and is therefore folly," Mr. Clarke said at a recent conference sponsored by Microsoft.....

As for cost, This should be a "Cake Walk".
After all, the Internet as we now know it today came from the old arpanet.

And Microsoft......lol
Gimme Me a Break....
Unix, the real backbone of everything, was running very well (and still is) before then young Mr. Gates ever wrote his first "program".
Just my 2 cents.
2 posted on 11/17/2001 11:24:17 AM PST by Fiddlstix
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To: TrueBeliever9
FYI.
3 posted on 11/17/2001 12:20:07 PM PST by Howlin
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To: Asmodeus
Related site:Internet 2
4 posted on 11/17/2001 12:20:53 PM PST by mdittmar
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To: Asmodeus
It's a good idea. I don't see what's wrong with a trend in which people build their own networks separate from the Net. The Internet sucks.
5 posted on 11/17/2001 12:32:23 PM PST by billybudd
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To: Asmodeus
It's extremely doubtful that any system that isn't within a secure, guarded perimeter can be secure. All very well to talk about a second internet separate from the first, but if it has fiber or cables running all around the country there's no way they can be sure that no one has tapped into it.

No, they need to do what they are doing now, which is to isolate the computers that contain secrets from any connection to communication systems. It's a hassle, but it's a necessary hassle.

6 posted on 11/17/2001 12:47:54 PM PST by Cicero
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To: Fiddlstix
I think a lot of people are going to be pleasantly suprised and others disappointed over the issue of Microsoft, especially at the server level. Unix made the break, especially with Solaris on the Sun boxes. With IBM and their new Linux server and HP with their Linux server, Linux is finally making the breakthrough into the mainstream. Unix is nice but it's not very viable for a desktop solution. If the markets are able to pick one or two versions of Linux and stay with those, you might see more Linux solutions in the next few years.

As for a separate internet for the government, that will really take off< /sarcasm>

7 posted on 11/17/2001 12:49:34 PM PST by billbears
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To: Asmodeus
Why not a separate Gov network? Lots of corporations and indeed a number of gov agencies already have separate, hardwired networks. And there are ways to both detect taps and/or make taps useless. One simple way is government grade encryption.
8 posted on 11/17/2001 1:14:57 PM PST by jimtorr
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To: jimtorr
Amen. The networks already exist. I think the article is talking about the "public" side networks.

Would be a great idea. Would get a lot of "useless" traffic off the backbone.

9 posted on 11/17/2001 1:21:11 PM PST by Amerigomag
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To: Asmodeus
"The worst case here," he said of a cyberspace attack against the government, "is that we might not be able to communicate for essential government services. And it might happen at a time when we're at war. It might happen at a time when we're responding to terrorism."

While the Digital Pearl Harbor scenario is certainly a valid concern, I couldn't help but think when I read this section, how many "essential government services" there are with whom I wish I could never communicate.


10 posted on 11/17/2001 1:28:24 PM PST by Sabertooth
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To: Cicero
...akin to closing our borders. Well, as for this, we must remember that everything's a 2-edged sword. But as Microsoft was infiltrated awhile back in Russia, it is more than possible that sword can now be wielded by our "friends" and"strategic partners." Wish we had honest government--but what am I thinking?
12 posted on 11/17/2001 1:34:07 PM PST by attagirl
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To: Fiddlstix
Unix, the real backbone of everything, was running very well (and still is) before then young Mr. Gates ever wrote his first "program".
Just my 2 cents.

That would be my $0.02 as well. Maybe the Lindows OS will be a success.

13 posted on 11/17/2001 1:39:56 PM PST by Carol Roberts
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To: Asmodeus
I can't wait for this debacle. The only reason the current Internet works is because the government is not running it. The IRS has spent billions on their computer system, with nothing to show for it.

This would be fun to watch if the money weren't coming out of our pockets.

14 posted on 11/17/2001 1:41:18 PM PST by E. Pluribus Unum
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To: Asmodeus
--actually, I'm all for both the free for all anarchy wild west net as we know it now, then a buncha private nets. if joe government needs a more secure net, fine. Normally I criticise government mostly, but I can see a legit need for some aspects of government being more hardened. And THEN, they can BUTT OUT of the free for all net, just go away and stuff. I know they "invented it", but it's come a long way from then to now, it ain't all "theirs" anymore. And if 'the dark side' wants gatesnet, so be it, their choice (stop it, making a joke here ;^)). And if someone else wants another kinda net, so be it. More the merrier I say. I like redundancy in critical areas, backups for backups. As long as the main net we got now isn't just seized and taken over by anyone, but anything additional, goferit.
15 posted on 11/17/2001 2:13:19 PM PST by zog
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To: billbears
....Unix is nice but it's not very viable for a desktop solution.....

Hmmmmm....
What about FreeBSD or NetBSD?
Both Unix Variants......
Not "Really" Linux ( Which is, of course, a 'Nix Variant also)

Btw, Out of my 8 computers here, I run Linux on two of them and FreeBSD on two others
I Like BSD the Best.

Insofar as "Desktops" go. There's a lot of stuff available
Just go to freshmeat.net
God Bless

(Btw, Unix was the Original "desktop solution".
Believe me, I was there :)
16 posted on 11/17/2001 2:54:02 PM PST by Fiddlstix
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To: Carol Roberts; amundsen
Both Good Points.

I worked on a computer way back in 1964.
I won't go into detail.
Suffice it to say, I got my EE... and I really had no intention of becomming involved with computers (Well, Not at that time in my life anyway)
But, things changed. The world changed, I changed.
I did, in the end, become involved with the "Monster"
ROFLMAO!
And...
I must admit, It has it's good moments....
And can be quite "fun" at times.
J
17 posted on 11/17/2001 3:07:42 PM PST by Fiddlstix
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