She did not tell them she was HIV positive, but offered them condoms which they allegedly refused and proceeded with the rape.

Justice!

She is a better woman than I. If I had been in her position, let them get infected. In fact, I probably would have biten them to help the cause along.

She may have been asking them to please not impregnate her with the rapes, don'tcha know! Total castration is the preferred punishment, with the remainder of their sick lives spent shoveling dung from barns under heavy guard ... that's if they are to be left alive. Bullets are cheaper.

Oops....didn't think of that. Also, her sons were nearby so she probably endured rather than resist and risk harm to her children. Either way she was a brave lady....and I agree that the rapists deserve whatever can be done to them... thanks for catching my oversight. I was just so ....mad!

Well, the laws of the jungle being what they are, I presume if she had told them she was infected, they probably would have killed her. She tried.

The sad thing is, if she actually has AIDS, she's vulnerable to secondary infections; the rape may well have exposed her to something that can kill her considering her vulnerability. And I'm sure she didn't want to add another potential AIDS orphan, or tiny victim, to her family.

I've always wondered. There hasn't been anyone I could ask. I do not believe I have ever known even one man who would, who could commit rape. I've known a few guys who had their nasty side, but no one I believe would do this to a woman. It seems so common, there must be a lot of men like these vermin and like x42, who think nothing of abusing sacred procreative powers this way. This is a fairly anonymous forum. It could be more anonymous; clear your cookie and create a name of shame just to answer this one question: if you've raped someone, please tell me why, and how you live with it. I can't see any conservative male DOING an act this vile.

No one ever touched me against my will. I had a few who backed off when I asked. Maybe I was just lucky.

It seems so common, there must be a lot of men like these vermin and like x42, who think nothing of abusing sacred procreative powers this way.

Keep in mind that x rapes does not equal x rapists. A couple of years ago a lot of women in this area were being raped in their apartments. Then a rapist made the mistake of going after a gun owner and she shot him. The rapes stopped after that and everyone pretty much agreed that all or most of the rapes were comitted by this one guy. There's a lesson about gun control here, but my main point was about rape statistics, and how lots of rapes can be comitted by a few people (or in the case here, one person.)

Being female, and having never been raped, I can't speak from personal experience, but I think there are a LOT more men who are capable of rape when they've got some alcohol in them than who are capable of it when sober. Domestic violence is usually accompanied by alcohol as well. And a lot of other really awful things.

I'm sure you could pose this question to a representative sample of male college freshmen, and even with the cloak of anonymity, only a tiny handful would admit they could (and they'd probably defend themselves with some nonsense about how women often mean yes when they say no). But if you checked out the same group four years of keg parties later (and perhaps more reliably, if you checked with the women who attended those parties), the number would be much higher. When people are drunk, they're capable of things they didn't know they were capable of.

I have no doubt that what you say is correct, that each rapist rapes until he is caught. However, with a gang rape, you're dealing with four...and there is no geographical region in the world that is free of this miserable crime (though Saudi would like us to think so.) Even if they are distributed fairly sparingly throughout the population, it's a big population, and there sure are a lot of men in jail for it. Rape is second, I believe, only to drug convictions, and above robbery and murder, though I would question the absolute distinction between rape, robbery, and murder--in a way, they are one and the same in their essence.

It hasn't HAPPENED to me, however. I've been told by a lot of women on an LDS online women's email group that because I have never BEEN molested or abused or raped I don't have the moral right to DISCUSS the subject. Perhaps there is some truth to that.

You've also never been murdered, but that doesn't mean that you have no right to say that murder is evil.

There's another limb I can go out on. Maybe it'll get me into even more trouble than I was in on that LDS women's group. Any woman of any age can be raped. (Alas, even babies can be. Incredible.) However, it seems to me that a God-fearing conservative gal who believes in abstainance and self-protection, and who seeks the company of like-minded gentlemen, is far less at risk than the kind of trashy-dressing woman who goes to bars and then goes home with strangers. If that makes anybody mad, I'm sorry. Nobody deserves rape. But I hate to say it, liberal women often don't seem to go out of the way to avoid it.

Note to self: Don't rape JD86!__;^)

Offer a 9mm or 357 to the rapist and see if that fits.

And feel free to tell your friends the same....:)

Dated a lawyer once long ago...he was rather persistent one night...my "no" seemed to entice, so I quit all movement and said, "I consider this rape."

He was outta' my house like a bolt of hellish lightening.

As far as "date rape," I think this claim would work....no more, "She said 'no,' but she meant, "yes."

Good for you!

Its more common than you think. In fact, I have NEVER been close friends with a woman, who didn't confide in me at some point that she had been molested (usually as a child), raped, grabbed, or sexually assaulted. Remember the latest Woodstock fiasco? I think it is more common today than it used to be.

Women carry your guns!

I guess the "legal-ese" affected his self-preserving bent!! (never did date another lawyer...!)

Dated a lawyer once long ago...he was rather persistent one night...my "no" seemed to entice, so I quit all movement and said, "I consider this rape."

Very smart!! I think a lot of times people debate about the "no means no" thing needlessly. Even if there are some women who don't mean it (please note the words "if" and "some" before you flame me) "no" can certainly always be interpreted as "if you proceed beyond this point, you are legally guilty of rape".

You pushed the right button. Hate to say it but some of the stuff you see on tv about boy lawyers and their egos is true.