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Mystery of disappearing al-Qaida soldiers
WorldnetDaily ^ | November 27, 2001

Posted on 11/27/2001 7:53:36 PM PST by Sabertooth

While U.S. troops scour the mountains and caves for Osama bin Laden, the bulk of his al-Qaida army has also disappeared.

It was found to be missing when the Northern Alliance seized control of the northern Taliban enclave of Konduz-Khanabad yesterday.

Roughly 1,500 of bin Laden's men are reported still holding out outside Konduz. A similar number is unaccounted for.

First the figures: At the peak of the battle of Konduz, Northern Alliance spokesmen estimated 10,000 "foreign fighters" were in the town, a figure military experts rate an exaggeration. The true figure was no more than 6,000. It included several thousand young student volunteers from the Islamic madresses (Islamic academies) of Pakistan who were told to go and fight America with very little army training or weapons but for their blind hero-worship of the ex-Saudi terrorist.

However, mixed among these eager students were several hundred Pakistani army officers and soldiers in civilian dress, as well as some 120 Pakistani Inter-Services Intelligence, ISI service agents, representing Pakistan's secret intelligence and logistical support for the Taliban.

Most reached Afghanistan before the American offensive was launched Oct. 7; some entered later and, in a bizarre twist of the Afghanistan war, may even have given U.S. Special Forces useful inside intelligence on the Taliban and al-Qaida.

According to military experts, 3,000 of these men, some injured, were evacuated from Konduz in a secret nocturnal Pakistani airlift before the Taliban enclave fell to the Northern Alliance.

Left, therefore, in the Konduz-Khanabad sector were no more than 3,000-3,500 al-Qaida fighting men, roughly the same number present before the siege of Konduz. Around 500 or 600 surrendered last week – together with a group of Taliban fighters who switched over to the Uzbek force – only to engage their captors in a suicide battle in a fortress-prison near Mazar-al-Sharif. Several hundred were killed in the fighting, but they also killed at least one American agent and injured a group of U.S. Special Forces troops.

That left a total of 2,500 to 3,000 at most that should have been found in the Konduz-Khanabad sector – Saudis, Gulf Arabs, Egyptians, Jordanians, Somalis, Yemenis, Chechens and Palestinians. Intelligence estimates before the Konduz siege put the Saudi extremist component fighting with al-Qaida at 500-700.

That is roughly the missing number about whose whereabouts speculation is rife.

Correspondents who entered Konduz with the Northern Alliance quoted local inhabitants as reporting that two nights before the town fell – and immediately after the Pakistani planes flew in – heavy Russian Antonov air transports touched down at Konduz airport and gathered up the al-Qaida "Arabs" – with their weapons.

Military sources, after checking on this lead with army intelligence sources in the Indian subcontinent, present this explanation of the mystery as the most plausible. Those Antonovs were chartered by the Pakistani ISI to lift the al-Qaida contingents together with a few Taliban units out of Konduz in north Afghanistan into north Pakistan.

And that was not the end of the transfer. It is still going on. Sources report that al-Qaida and their Taliban allies are streaming out of Kandahar in the south and crossing east into Pakistan. The two forces have thus far grouped some 4,000 fighting men on the Pakistani side.

According to intelligence sources, the United States hurriedly injected Marines to the south yesterday in direct response to the enemy's redeployment. That, too, is why the first U.S. troop engagement was with a Taliban convoy approaching the Pakistani frontier. For the U.S. Marines' immediate objective is not to join the Northern Alliance offensive for the capture of Mullah Omar's bastion of Kandahar, but to block off the continuing passage of Taliban and al-Qaida units across the highly porous frontier.

Other al-Qaida fighters are thought to have taken advantage of the turmoil and confusion of battle to creep away to the Hindu Kush Mountains. There is no evidence of this happening, but it accords with their commanders' original plan; if it came to be, the suicide battle in Mazar-al-Sharif prison will not the last to be staged in Afghanistan.


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I know, I know... It's DEBKA!.

I just needed a spot in the sidebar to hang the Osama bin DEAD-pool for the evening.


1 posted on 11/27/2001 7:53:36 PM PST by Sabertooth
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To: Victoria Delsoul; harpseal; Travis McGee; Spirit Of Truth; Manny Festo; The Documentary Lady...

Osama Paki-pool Update:
Osama bin DEAD-pool

Pick a day! Any day! Or flag me for a QikPik!

Update

Still plenty of open dates, so flag me on this thread if you want in.
As you've noticed, since he doesn't look like he'll make it to Pakistan,
I went ahead and changed the name of the pool. Sue me.

November, 2001

November 16: First day of Ramadan!
November 17: 68-69TonkinGulfYatchClub - Nope.
November 18: OPEN
November 19: OPEN
November 20: OPEN
November 21: OPEN
November 22: Azzurri -- Thanksgiving - Nope.
November 23: Sabertooth - Nope.
November 24: Jefferson Adams - Nope.
November 25: Victoria Delsoul - Nope.
November 26: airborne - Nope.
November 27: harpseal - Tick… tick… tick.
November 28: snippy_about_it - On the bubble.
November 29: Tunehead54
November 30: Travis McGee










December, 2001

December   1: alancarp
December   2: onyx
December   3: AfghanAirShow
December   4: Straight Vermonter
December   5: Pokey78
December   6: proudofthesouth
December   7: null and void -- Pearl Harbor Day
December   8: MaeWest
December   9: justlurking
December 10: glock rocks
December 11: KayEyeDoubleDee
December 12: Washi
December 13: FreedomFarmer
December 14: irish guard
December 15: hattend

Not sure when Ramadan ends, but around here somewhere.

December 16: nunya bidness
December 17: abner
December 18: anniegetyourgun
December 19: Collier
December 20: mdittmar
December 21: Nick Danger
December 22: okie01
December 23: peteram
December 24: RasterMaster -- Christmas Eve
December 25: Go Gordon -- Christmas Day
December 26: Loyalist
December 27: Brian Allen
December 28: Snow Bunny
December 29: Alabama_Wild_Man
December 30: CIApilot
December 31: Miss Marple -- New Year's Eve

January, 2002

January   1: Freeper 007 -- New Year's Day
January   2: spectr17
January   3: lainde
January   4: Woodman
January   5: Semper911
January   6: be-baw
January   7: aruanan
January   8: PoisedWoman -- Elvis' Birthday
January   9: Diogenesis.
January 10: JeanS
January 11: is_is
January 12: garycooper
January 13: Torie
January 14: JohnHuang2
January 15: coteblanche -- Martin Luther King's Birthday.
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January 17: lmr
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January 19: LibWhacker
January 20: Gritty -- Anniversary of Dubya's Inagural
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January 22: Mike Darancette
January 23: Shooter 2.5
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January 25: butter pecan fan
January 26: itwasntme
January 27: OPEN
January 28: OPEN
January 29: veronica
January 30: InfraRed
January 31: Ernest_at_the_Beach

February, 2002

February   1: OPEN
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February   4: deadhead
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February 22: OPEN
February 23: katze
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February 25: OPEN
February 26: OPEN
February 27: OPEN
February 28: Poohbah




March, 2002

March   1: OPEN
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March   5: OPEN
March   6: OPEN
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March 10: OPEN
March 11: OPEN
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March 13: OPEN
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March 15: OPEN
March 16: OPEN
March 17: Hillary's Lovely Legs
March 18: OPEN
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March 22: OPEN
March 23: OPEN
March 24: OPEN
March 25: OPEN
March 26: OPEN
March 27: OPEN
March 28: JerseyHighlander
March 29: OPEN
March 30: OPEN
March 31: OPEN

And here are a couple of Freepers who think that they know something that the rest of us don't…

April 1: Free Vulcan
April 14: Faraday
April 29: dennisw

October 10: susangirl









If you're unsure what the whole "Paki-pool" idea was about, click this link to a thread posted by Travis McGee on October 25th...

Will Osama Appear In Pakistan?

The operating theory is was that Osama bin Laden had a plan all along to show up in Pakistan, have himself declared the "Imam al-Mahdi" (a long-prophesied Islamic savior-figure), and start a civil war in an attempt to gain control of Pakistan's nukes.

Sound crazy? So is he. Crazy evil. It's still an interesting read.

Here's another:
   Black Flags of Islam  

Portents of the Imam al-Mahdi, the Moslems' prophesied deliverer of Jerusalem?

Click on the Black Flags for the link
growl!


2 posted on 11/27/2001 7:54:42 PM PST by Sabertooth
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To: Sabertooth
Saber put me in for the Jan 27th date. I think OBL will be killed well before then but I was slow in getting into this pool.
3 posted on 11/27/2001 7:58:04 PM PST by WRhine
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To: Sabertooth
Hey Sabertooth....

Put me in for January 28th....

NeverGore

4 posted on 11/27/2001 8:03:31 PM PST by nevergore
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To: Sabertooth
Feb 1st, please
5 posted on 11/27/2001 8:06:35 PM PST by mvonfr
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To: Sabertooth
And here are a couple of Freepers who think that they know something that the rest of us don't…

I knew that all the reasonable dates were gone, but figured we had to get the pig before federal taxes were due.

6 posted on 11/27/2001 8:06:38 PM PST by Faraday
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To: Sabertooth
BUMP

Osama and I will add Saddam too, get them both.

7 posted on 11/27/2001 8:09:53 PM PST by Snow Bunny
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To: Sabertooth
Put me down for April 28th. I think he will assume cave temp much sooner, but his body wont be found for months and this is my birthday!
8 posted on 11/27/2001 8:13:21 PM PST by operation clinton cleanup
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To: operation clinton cleanup
March 24th for me. My BD.
9 posted on 11/27/2001 8:15:43 PM PST by seeker41
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To: Sabertooth
I would like March 15, the Ides of March, since it's open, thank you in advance.
10 posted on 11/27/2001 8:16:03 PM PST by X-FID
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To: Sabertooth
Sign me up for February 1st!!!!
11 posted on 11/27/2001 8:16:30 PM PST by Joe 6-pack
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To: Sabertooth
Feb 1 for me please!
12 posted on 11/27/2001 8:16:50 PM PST by Scott K
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To: Sabertooth
Put me down for Feb. 6th - Ronald Reagan's birthday.
13 posted on 11/27/2001 8:16:52 PM PST by Slyfox
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To: Sabertooth
Feb. 3 for me. Wish tomorrow wasn't taken!
15 posted on 11/27/2001 8:17:50 PM PST by JennysCool
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To: Scott K
Ok - Feb 2nd. Thanks.
16 posted on 11/27/2001 8:17:57 PM PST by Scott K
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To: Sabertooth
While U.S. troops scour the mountains and caves for Osama bin Laden

SEAL OFF THE CAVES WITH CEMENT

17 posted on 11/27/2001 8:18:43 PM PST by Slyfox
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To: Sabertooth
BUMP
18 posted on 11/27/2001 8:24:44 PM PST by Brian Allen
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To: Sabertooth
I want March 16...please!!!!! Not only is it my birthday, but that thought of that guys head on a stick will take my woes off turnin' 30!!!!!! Eeek! *L*
19 posted on 11/27/2001 8:26:34 PM PST by Happygal
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To: Sabertooth
I suspect they are all on a brief vacation in Lybia !!!
20 posted on 11/27/2001 8:27:16 PM PST by GeekDejure
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