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VANITY - Israeli-Palestinian Conflict, what solution would YOU propose?
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Posted on 12/04/2001 3:22:18 PM PST by Republican Party Reptile

I'm asking the question looking for replies and discourse that (hopefully) can raise above suggesting wiping one side or the other off the face of the earth, locking people up in a police state, or expelling either side from the land they occupy today (where would they go? and how would that really solve the problem other then pushing the problem somewhere else?).

What do you think is a viable long term solution to the Israeli-Palestinian conflict and how would one go about making it happen?

As someone who is not of Judeo-Christian-Islamist cultural/religion background, I don't have an religious or idealogical dog in the fight. I have heard and read about the grievences and claims and counter-claims from both sides, while I sympathize, I'll admit that the grievences are not personal to me. I have spent a lot of time in both Israel and Arab nations due to work. I got along and liked the people I came in contact with in Israel and in the Arab states. I think the state of Israel has a right to a secured and peaceful existence, and I think the same for a Palestinian state. But I don't profess to have any idea how this can be realistically accomplished.


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1 posted on 12/04/2001 3:22:19 PM PST by Republican Party Reptile
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To: Republican Party Reptile
I'm asking the question looking for replies and discourse that (hopefully) can raise above suggesting wiping one side or the other off the face of the earth, locking people up in a police state, or expelling either side from the land they occupy today (where would they go? and how would that really solve the problem other then pushing the problem somewhere else?).

Unfortunately, the above are the only viable options, including to many Israelis and what seems like 99% of the Palestinians.

Talking and "diplomacy" gets you no where.

2 posted on 12/04/2001 3:26:22 PM PST by StoneColdGOP
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To: Republican Party Reptile
The land belongs to the Jews. The philistines can live in another area of the middle east. Let the Saudis give them land.
3 posted on 12/04/2001 3:28:20 PM PST by svcw
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To: Republican Party Reptile
There is no solution for an essentially Darwinian problem.

Darwin believed that within any genus there are species and that species are constantly mutating. Some of the mutations contribute to survival and allow one subspecies to nudge out those individuals not posessing the favorable characteristic

The stronger of the two will survive and prosper. The weak will fade into insignificance and wither.

Israelis seem to posess traits allowing them to prevail. We will see.

4 posted on 12/04/2001 3:29:05 PM PST by bert
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To: Republican Party Reptile
Wipe the Palis off the face of the Earth.
5 posted on 12/04/2001 3:29:11 PM PST by RedBloodedAmerican
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To: Republican Party Reptile
Here is the problem, and it is simple:

Two groups claim the same exact land for religious reasons. Only one can have it---there is no "negotiation" and no "compromise." Cut and dried.

This must be based on nothing else but power. One side, as Rush said today, must win, and the other must lose.

To complicate matters, though, Israel as a modern "liberaocracy" feels guilty for its own legitimate claim to the land. This guilt complex is viewed by the Pales and Arabs as weakness and lack of conviction. Until or unless Israel decides to fight for Israel, we can do nothing.

If and when Israel decides to fight for Israel, we must support Israel. I say that as a Christian because that is what God has stated in terms of believers' attitudes toward Israel; that is what is written in prophecy; and there will be no other outcome. If Israel doesn't fight now, it only means that it will happen in the future. But, it will happen.

Finally, there is no reason---religiously, politically, socially, or in terms of "human rights" for any American, and certainly any Christian---to support the Pale point of view. None. So I say, let the Israelis have it it, if they will.

6 posted on 12/04/2001 3:33:29 PM PST by LS
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I think the situation should go back to what it was 15 years or so back. The Israelis control all of Israel. Arafat should stay in exile (either above the ground, or in it).

This is the only thing that will solve the situation. The Palistinians (Arabs) will NEVER accept the existence of Jews in their part of the world, accept by force. So that's the answer, force.

In the long run, over the generations, this will prevent the hatred being taught in paletinian schools from continuing the warfare forever. After maybe 80 years or so, then tempers might have cooled enough to do something else.

7 posted on 12/04/2001 3:34:31 PM PST by narby
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Exterminate the Palestinians ..... then go after any Muslim state that feels like taking on the US and Israel.

Next question.

8 posted on 12/04/2001 3:37:18 PM PST by Centurion2000
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Any opinions on returning the land and Palestinians to Jordan? They appear to be a much more serious peace partner, have dealt aggressively with militants, and the Palestinians did not seem to have a problem with this situation prior to 1967. It would also eliminate a significant chunk of the "right of return" problem as so many Palestinians are now in Jordan. Far fetched, but not impossible.
9 posted on 12/04/2001 3:38:22 PM PST by The Federalist
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Uh. Palestinians are not philistines.
10 posted on 12/04/2001 3:41:41 PM PST by BrooklynGOP
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Can you elaborate? Not sure what your point is?
11 posted on 12/04/2001 3:42:55 PM PST by The Federalist
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The key issue that must be resolved for peace in occupied Palestine deals with the ownership of any land with an ocean view. Unitl ALL such property is in the hands of Israelis, there can be no peace. Similarly, all "good" property in occupied Palestine must either be seized by Israeli authorities and turned over to Israelis, including the friends and relatives of Israeli politicians, or voluntarily turned over to Israelis by all non-Israelis. You may take offense to this suggestion, either because you are truly offended or because you know it to be true but can't admit it, but, it is the KEY to peace in Israel, Palestine and the conflict in the area.
12 posted on 12/04/2001 3:44:31 PM PST by Tacis
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Any opinions on returning the land and Palestinians to Jordan?

Actually Israel offered Jordan the land back a while ago. Jordan does not want it, since Pals cause trouble anywhere they go. What's more, Palestinians claim a chunk of Jordan as part of Palestine as well, and when they tried to grab it (think back to Black September) Jordanian king killed tens of thousands of them..

13 posted on 12/04/2001 3:44:41 PM PST by BrooklynGOP
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To: BrooklynGOP
Sorry, first time posting. Did not see who your answer was to.
14 posted on 12/04/2001 3:44:43 PM PST by The Federalist
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Israeli-Palestinian Conflict, what solution would YOU propose?

Give the Palestinians a homeland.

15 posted on 12/04/2001 3:44:43 PM PST by IronJack
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Give the Palestinians a homeland.

In Uganda.

16 posted on 12/04/2001 3:47:50 PM PST by BrooklynGOP
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Take all the troublemakers on both sides, lock them in a soccer stadium and let them kill each other, so that those who are left can maybe work something out.
17 posted on 12/04/2001 3:48:55 PM PST by wimpycat
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To: bert
Israelis seem to posess traits allowing them to prevail. We will see.

The primary trait that allows Israel to prevail is their uncanny ability to weasle 3 billion + in aid from the U.S. year after year.

18 posted on 12/04/2001 3:50:57 PM PST by northernwilson
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There should be a Palestinian state. Christians have no special obligation to defend or support the physical state of Israel -- God's chosen people are Christians, not people just because they own or rent real estate within the borders of a nation.
19 posted on 12/04/2001 3:51:13 PM PST by JoeMomma
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