Posted on 12/04/2001 3:22:18 PM PST by Republican Party Reptile
I'm asking the question looking for replies and discourse that (hopefully) can raise above suggesting wiping one side or the other off the face of the earth, locking people up in a police state, or expelling either side from the land they occupy today (where would they go? and how would that really solve the problem other then pushing the problem somewhere else?).
What do you think is a viable long term solution to the Israeli-Palestinian conflict and how would one go about making it happen?
As someone who is not of Judeo-Christian-Islamist cultural/religion background, I don't have an religious or idealogical dog in the fight. I have heard and read about the grievences and claims and counter-claims from both sides, while I sympathize, I'll admit that the grievences are not personal to me. I have spent a lot of time in both Israel and Arab nations due to work. I got along and liked the people I came in contact with in Israel and in the Arab states. I think the state of Israel has a right to a secured and peaceful existence, and I think the same for a Palestinian state. But I don't profess to have any idea how this can be realistically accomplished.
Unfortunately, the above are the only viable options, including to many Israelis and what seems like 99% of the Palestinians.
Talking and "diplomacy" gets you no where.
Darwin believed that within any genus there are species and that species are constantly mutating. Some of the mutations contribute to survival and allow one subspecies to nudge out those individuals not posessing the favorable characteristic
The stronger of the two will survive and prosper. The weak will fade into insignificance and wither.
Israelis seem to posess traits allowing them to prevail. We will see.
Two groups claim the same exact land for religious reasons. Only one can have it---there is no "negotiation" and no "compromise." Cut and dried.
This must be based on nothing else but power. One side, as Rush said today, must win, and the other must lose.
To complicate matters, though, Israel as a modern "liberaocracy" feels guilty for its own legitimate claim to the land. This guilt complex is viewed by the Pales and Arabs as weakness and lack of conviction. Until or unless Israel decides to fight for Israel, we can do nothing.
If and when Israel decides to fight for Israel, we must support Israel. I say that as a Christian because that is what God has stated in terms of believers' attitudes toward Israel; that is what is written in prophecy; and there will be no other outcome. If Israel doesn't fight now, it only means that it will happen in the future. But, it will happen.
Finally, there is no reason---religiously, politically, socially, or in terms of "human rights" for any American, and certainly any Christian---to support the Pale point of view. None. So I say, let the Israelis have it it, if they will.
This is the only thing that will solve the situation. The Palistinians (Arabs) will NEVER accept the existence of Jews in their part of the world, accept by force. So that's the answer, force.
In the long run, over the generations, this will prevent the hatred being taught in paletinian schools from continuing the warfare forever. After maybe 80 years or so, then tempers might have cooled enough to do something else.
Next question.
Actually Israel offered Jordan the land back a while ago. Jordan does not want it, since Pals cause trouble anywhere they go. What's more, Palestinians claim a chunk of Jordan as part of Palestine as well, and when they tried to grab it (think back to Black September) Jordanian king killed tens of thousands of them..
Give the Palestinians a homeland.
In Uganda.
The primary trait that allows Israel to prevail is their uncanny ability to weasle 3 billion + in aid from the U.S. year after year.
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