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Wheelchair Access As A Must for Residences?
LA Times ^ | December 2, 2001 | Bob Pool

Posted on 12/06/2001 10:46:40 AM PST by VermiciousKnid

Edited on 09/03/2002 4:49:36 AM PDT by Jim Robinson. [history]

Housing: Santa Monica considers requiring new homes and those getting major remodeling to build in features for the handicapped.

Santa Monica homeowners soon may be asked to take a big step for those who can't walk.

In what would be the first such rules in the nation, Santa Monica officials are considering a proposal to require that all privately built new homes and those undergoing major remodeling have a wheelchair ramp entry, wide interior hallways and at least one handicapped-accessible bathroom.

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Another blow to personal property rights...

Regards,

1 posted on 12/06/2001 10:46:40 AM PST by VermiciousKnid
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To: VermiciousKnid
Is there any way to focus on the bureaucrat who first proposed this to the city council?

He/she needs to be in another line of work.

2 posted on 12/06/2001 10:53:09 AM PST by Publius6961
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To: VermiciousKnid
Straight out of Soviet Central Planning. These activists are very aggressive and are nationally organized. The same "visitability" statute was proposed in Tucson just weeks ago. Locals have managed to get it tabled indefinitely, or so the local counsel spokesman tells me. I figure they're the same commie gang as the gay-lesbian totalitarians who have fanned out over the country to demand "acceptance" when what they really want is total power to militate for their utopian or libertine visions.
3 posted on 12/06/2001 10:58:02 AM PST by Havisham
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To: VermiciousKnid
They should equip them all with life preservers as well for when they sink into the ocean from the weight of their oppression.
4 posted on 12/06/2001 10:58:34 AM PST by chance33_98
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To: VermiciousKnid
What about all the home buyers that'll be priced out of a home? Liberals claim to be for the little guy, but they constantly come up with crap like this that just ends up hurting the people they claim to champion.
5 posted on 12/06/2001 11:00:25 AM PST by randog
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To: VermiciousKnid
I worked as a case manager for nearly 20 years, and this is NOT what the majority of disabled individuals want-they just want to be able to put these accommodations in their OWN homes at a reasonable cost. Glad I don't live there-my money, my home, my choice.
6 posted on 12/06/2001 11:02:45 AM PST by Texan5
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To: Publius6961
The name of said beaureucrat is Alan Toy, a Santa Monica resident who is an appointee to the Independent Living Council and an elected member of the city's Rent Control Board.

As I am a New Yorker who only ran into this little bit of fascism searching for other abuses, that's all I can tell you about Mr. Toy. Perhaps one of our LA-based Freeper friends can get further info.

Regards, Regards,

7 posted on 12/06/2001 11:06:05 AM PST by VermiciousKnid
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To: Texan5
You said it, Texan...your home, your choice. I agree with you when you say that most of the disabled would be appalled at this. I certainly do hope they speak up.

Regards,

8 posted on 12/06/2001 11:07:49 AM PST by VermiciousKnid
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To: VermiciousKnid
Oh great!

So now homeowners will have the experience that many business owners have had. Lawyers pushing someone in a wheelchair up to your door and demanding to see your handicapped access.

What, no ramp to the porch? No elevator to the second floor? No rails around your toilet?

See you in court!

In my city, a couple of years ago this is exactly what happened. It cost the company I work for hundreds of thousands of dollars. The same attorney filed dozens of lawsuits on behalf of the same wheelchair bound, elderly individual based on alleged ADA violations.

So all together now:

"But this is different"

"It can't happen here"

Don't get me wrong, I am not, in any way, disparaging the handicapped. But I feel that if a private business, on performing a cost-benefit anlysis, decides to invest or not to invest in accomodations for the handicapped, it is their decision. Handicapped customers can vote with their checkbooks. As for homeowners - Well really; does anyone feel that the government should dictate to you that you MUST accomodate the handicapped in your own home! This is just TOO MUCH.

Just watch. If we're not careful, first Santa Monica, then California, then.....

Relax, get a cup of coffee, chill. OK, I feel better now.

9 posted on 12/06/2001 11:09:22 AM PST by Chuckster
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To: VermiciousKnid
This requirement will handicap the homeowner -- costing him an an arm and a leg -- Hmmmmm --
10 posted on 12/06/2001 11:09:53 AM PST by Woodkirk
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To: VermiciousKnid
Housing: Santa Monica considers requiring new homes and those getting major remodeling to build in features for the handicapped.

Not good enough.

I want the following requirements, or I am SUING SANTA MONICA:

"California" is the punchline other states say when they want the biggest laughs.

11 posted on 12/06/2001 11:10:15 AM PST by Lazamataz
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To: Lazamataz
For heaven's sake, Laz...don't give them any ideas!

Regards,

12 posted on 12/06/2001 11:12:36 AM PST by VermiciousKnid
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To: Lazamataz
Please don't give them any more ideas. LOL!
13 posted on 12/06/2001 11:13:19 AM PST by BlessedBeGod
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To: VermiciousKnid; BlessedBeGod
For heaven's sake, Laz...don't give them any ideas!

I know, but their efforts are JUST NOT GOOD ENOUGH.

14 posted on 12/06/2001 11:14:36 AM PST by Lazamataz
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To: VermiciousKnid; BlessedBeGod
If it saves ONE LIFE, it's worth it.

Do it for the children.

You don't hate children, do you?

15 posted on 12/06/2001 11:15:46 AM PST by Lazamataz
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To: VermiciousKnid
I agree with you when you say that most of the disabled would be appalled at this. I certainly do hope they speak up

No problem. It's ridiclous as ridiclous as the Americans With Disabilities Act itself. 99% of the ADA needs to be tossed. The only places the ADA accessability laws should apply is in government facilities built with taxpayer money. Before being flamed as cruel I and my wife both are disabled. My wife to the point of being wheel chair dependent for 16 years. She agrees the ADA is ridicluos as well. We did our own modifications as these type modifications are only suitable on individual basis. What works for one is a hinderance to another.

16 posted on 12/06/2001 11:19:45 AM PST by cva66snipe
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To: riley1992
More BS to brighten your day.
18 posted on 12/06/2001 11:22:29 AM PST by NoCurrentFreeperByThatName
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To: VermiciousKnid
Great, this whole concept is probably because one disabled person couldn't find a reasonably priced used home with these features.

Here's a thought, lets make it so that you are not allowed to sell you house for more than you owe on it. That way everyone will be able to afford a used house......
19 posted on 12/06/2001 11:22:34 AM PST by phalynx
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To: VermiciousKnid
Lets see, in MD you can't smoke in your home, in Santa Monica you now HAVE TO have facilities for the disabled, all at your own expense of course. Is there any aspect of our lives liberals don't want to control?

BTW what ever happened to thet "Right to privacy" guarenteed us by Roe v Wade? I guess that only gives us the privacy to commit murder. Liberal loonacy at its finest.

20 posted on 12/06/2001 11:24:36 AM PST by YankeeReb
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