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Please help a concerned Dad.
Outlaw76

Posted on 12/07/2001 9:05:30 AM PST by Outlaw76

Hello Fellow Freepers and Parents, I need your help to save my son.

Yesterday my wife was warned that my son would be tested for ADD/HD, and that the teacher would recommend that he be placed on medication. If we did not agree she let us know that it would go on his record and that he would likely be placed in a special ed. class in the future.
This is something I have expected nearly since the day he was born. My son has the unfortunate fate of being a whole lot like his dad. I remember my youth with a vividness that no one I know can match. My earliest memories are when I was around two years old. Folks, I can remember being really small. Is that a part of him they would destroy with the mind altering drugs? I can recognize patterns moving rapidly in front of my eyes. (An incredible talent for debugging code amongst other things.) They would make that impossible by numbing his reaction to stimulus. What other traits will they destroy in their quest to fit the square peg into the round hole? Will he loose some of his problem solving abilities? Will he loose his logical understanding and common sense?

As you can see I am deeply concerned, no scared, of what they want to do to my child. Currently, home schooling is not an option. We cannot take him to a private school either. They hold my child hostage with threats of ‘medicate him or we will put him in a class with ‘Special’ children.’ That is in spite of the fact that he does well on tests and scored above average on a national test. I can’t allow them to destroy my child.

I do not think this will be an easy battle to win. Though I am a game competitor, this is not an arena I am well versed at doing battle in. I need information, reliable solid information.

Can anyone point me in the direction of the following:
1. Statistics on the diagnosis of ADD/HD since 1982. (These are the kids that have recently graduated or will be graduation in the near future.)
2. Statistics on graduation rates for the same period.
3. Statistics on suicide rates for the same period.
4. Statistics on student SAT and ACT scores over that time period.
5. Information related to the negative effects of using these drugs on children.
6. Any information that might help me in this battle.

I am prepared to raise quiet a bit of hell on this issue. We will hire a doctor to diagnose him privately. We will hire an attorney to ensure none of this gets into his school records. We will fight this as far and as hard as we have to. I will not let them destroy the man my son will become.


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Please understand, I am not open to changing or exchanging my child. "He was a whole different person!"

My son is a bright, happy, kind, inteligent 6 year old who dotes on his 3 year old sister, fights with his 10 year old sister and loves his momma like no other. I am not just proud, I am more than proud, I'm his Dad.

1 posted on 12/07/2001 9:05:30 AM PST by Outlaw76 (AdvoMail@hotpop.com)
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To: Outlaw76
Homeschool.

Get him away from the pushers.

2 posted on 12/07/2001 9:07:08 AM PST by El Sordo
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To: Outlaw76
Homeschool.

Get him away from the pushers.

3 posted on 12/07/2001 9:07:10 AM PST by El Sordo
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To: Outlaw76
Homeschool.
4 posted on 12/07/2001 9:08:27 AM PST by Registered
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To: Outlaw76
Just say no.

Not a time to be collecting alleged facts like you are a lawyer going to trial; go with your gut instinct.

5 posted on 12/07/2001 9:08:35 AM PST by JohnGalt
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I agree, homeschool. If that's impossible, get a tutor to help him.
I can't believe the arrogance of them putting a note in his record.
They should be sued for that. Grrrr.
6 posted on 12/07/2001 9:10:07 AM PST by EggsAckley
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To: Outlaw76
Homeschool
7 posted on 12/07/2001 9:10:07 AM PST by HarryDunne
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To: Outlaw76
Why is homeschooling not an option?
8 posted on 12/07/2001 9:10:35 AM PST by Carolina
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To: Outlaw76
If you can afford a private doctor and an attorney, certainly you can afford to homeschool.

Open your eyes and look at the options, dad. Work nights. Have your wife work nights. Downsize your living arrangements.

We homeschool. I have one (of a set of twins) that would surely be in your boys position if they were in school. My little girl, she's a dreamer, and doesn't pay attention if it doesn't interest her. Show her a puzzle and it's done in seconds. She has an ability to see things that it seems many don't and it's natural. I can't drug her.

twinzmommy

9 posted on 12/07/2001 9:10:48 AM PST by twinzmommy
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Get him out of that school. They're just trying to medicate him into submission. You already seem to know that so why do you need any more input? You most likely are not going to win an argument with these people, you can't win with facts in any case, they know what they know and you're just an ignorant idiot parent who should give up his child to the village. So why go through all the grief.
10 posted on 12/07/2001 9:10:51 AM PST by okie_tech
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To: Outlaw76
My daughter was placed on medication for ADD a couple of years ago. She did fine in school and is now off the medication. Just be careful and get a second opinion before proceeding.
11 posted on 12/07/2001 9:11:01 AM PST by wwjdn
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To: Outlaw76
Homeschooling is always an option. You count the cost.
12 posted on 12/07/2001 9:11:57 AM PST by cornelis
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To: Outlaw76
My sympathies to you, sir! Have you tried talking to your son about what the consequences of his not sitting still, etc. are? Maybe if he knew that the consequences of not behaving are quite dire, he could get himself under control a bit more. My advice is talk, talk, talk to your son about this, and don't give up hope! Remember, "where there is great love, there are always miracles."
14 posted on 12/07/2001 9:12:25 AM PST by fearnot
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To: Outlaw76
Is it ADD or lack of sleep, ABC News story
15 posted on 12/07/2001 9:13:34 AM PST by evolved_rage
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Homeschool or private school, PLUS lawsuit. The person is essentially blackmailing you and your wife: Put the kid on the drugs we want him on, or we'll attach a social stigma to him from which he may never recover (throwing him in "special ed" with the nutcases). Sue the pants off them, as individuals, not just as the school board.
16 posted on 12/07/2001 9:14:43 AM PST by Timesink
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First, only a medical doctor who specializes in nuerology can possibly diagnose anything so subltle as ADD. The test alone could take six or seven years when one considers the time that is needed to get a child to an exellent specialist. Also the medical insurance does not like to pay for uneccesary medications. In the interim while you are being cooperative on this front you remove him from that school system and homeschool if possible and/or a private school or some other public school.

Good luck and our thoughts and prayers are with you.

Stay well - stay safe - Stay armed - Yorktown

17 posted on 12/07/2001 9:15:06 AM PST by harpseal
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I am deeply concerned, no scared, of what they want to do to my child.

Well - you SHOULD be.

Exactly what material possesions are you placing before your childs welfare ?

Move, take a job doing something else - but pull that boy OUT of that situation.

You owe him that. 25 years from now it will not matter what kind of car, house, neighborhood you had.

You will forever affect your son's life with this decision.

I know it's hard - I made the same one this year.

18 posted on 12/07/2001 9:16:41 AM PST by MassExodus
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To: Outlaw76
I would recommend two things: contact a lawyer and contact Mensa.

I grew up in a generation which teachers recognized higher intellegence levels and gave special considerations to those above the "normal" student. Your son (and you) are gifted-not deficient.

I fear that your school system is not equipped to handle bright students, which is not suprising. Homeschooling is a great alternative, but sometimes not financially feasable. You may want to try private schools, however they may not be equipped either. (mine wasn't)

Just my two cents.

19 posted on 12/07/2001 9:16:51 AM PST by Jessica Rabbit
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To: Outlaw76
I'm his Dad.

Genesis 33:5
And he lifted up his eyes, and saw the women and the children; and said, Who [are] those with thee? And he said, The children which God hath graciously given thy servant.Genesis 48:8-9 And Israel beheld Joseph's sons, and said, Who [are] these? And Joseph said unto his father, They [are] my sons, whom God hath given me in this [place]. And he said, Bring them, I pray thee, unto me, and I will bless them.

Children are the responsibility of the family, not the Government.

Deuteronomy 4:9-10
Only take heed to thyself, and keep thy soul diligently, lest thou forget the things which thine eyes have seen, and lest they depart from thy heart all the days of thy life: but teach them thy sons, and thy sons' sons; Specially the day that thou stoodest before the LORD thy God in Horeb, when the LORD said unto me, Gather me the people together, and I will make them hear my words, that they may learn to fear me all the days that they shall live upon the earth, and that they may teach their children.
20 posted on 12/07/2001 9:17:02 AM PST by Registered
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