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French Debate Killing Disabled People
newsmax.com ^ | Dec. 17, 2001 | Carl Limbacher

Posted on 12/18/2001 4:27:43 AM PST by tberry

Monday, Dec. 17, 2001

French Debate Killing Disabled People

Pro-abortion forces scoff at pro-life Americans who warn of the devaluation of human life, but what's happening in France is enough to frighten anyone.

Willemijn Forest, who lives in Marseilles, told the Christian Science Monitor how the first thing doctors asked after she bore a son with Down syndrome was whether she wanted to keep him.

"After the delivery, they took him away immediately, assuming I did not want to see him anymore. I said, 'Of course I want to keep him.' I was so appalled by their attitude."

France's highest court recently ruled that children with Down syndrome have a legal "right" never to have been born and may sue doctors who allowed them to be born - i.e., who didn't kill them. "For parents such as Mrs. Forest, the ruling demonstrates a view — which she says is widespread in French society — that a disabled life is not worth living," says the Monitor.

Execute the Innocent and Defenseless

France and other European countries are anti-choice on U.S. executions of ruthless murderers, but strangely enough they have little problem with executing the innocent.

The French court ruled Nov. 28 that a doctor failed to warn a mother that prenatal scans of her baby, Lionel, had symptoms of Down syndrome. Had she known she would have had him killed before birth, so now the doctor is 100 percent liable for the cost of raising the child.

Parents of mentally disabled children who gathered outside the courthouse to hear the verdict expressed outrage at the judges' ruling.

"Certain judges still believe that it is better to be dead than to be handicapped," said Dr. Xavier Mirabel, spokesman for Collective Against Handiphobia, a group that fights for rights for handicapped people in that allegedly Catholic country.

"Although most in France agree that the parents should receive financial aid for Lionel's specialized care, many are offended by the nature of the mother's grievance: That her son had been allowed to be born," says the Monitor's article, reprinted in today's Washington Times.

It always starts with the unborn, then the physically imperfect, then the newborn, then the elderly, then ...

Oh brave new world, that has such people in it.


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"It always starts with the unborn, then the physically imperfect, then the newborn, then the elderly, then ..."
1 posted on 12/18/2001 4:27:43 AM PST by tberry
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To: tberry
I'm speechless.
2 posted on 12/18/2001 4:34:45 AM PST by stevio
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To: tberry
But France has abolished the death penalty.
3 posted on 12/18/2001 4:37:13 AM PST by drc43
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To: tberry
These are the same French who will not extradite a killer to the US unless we promise not to execute?

And the the same French who surrender to foreign invaders at the drop of a hat?

4 posted on 12/18/2001 4:39:43 AM PST by 11th Earl of Mar
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To: tberry
Certain judges still believe that it is better to be dead than to be handicapped

It is better to be dead than French.

5 posted on 12/18/2001 5:05:01 AM PST by A Ruckus of Dogs
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To: tberry
But the French are warning us not to dare execute a murdering terrorist. Is it any wonder the French welcomed hitler and his troops with open arms. Friends, I believe it is time to end the purchase of any products from France.....no wine, no cheese, no perfume, no no no no........
6 posted on 12/18/2001 5:06:38 AM PST by OldFriend
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To: stevio
The French have always been nuttbars. Are there any questions about it now????
8 posted on 12/18/2001 5:09:36 AM PST by PRO 1
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To: tberry
Oh brave new world, that has such people in iT. You all realize of course that there is the EU arrest warrent which Britain is expected to sign if they haven't already. Once in effect, an Englishman could be extradited to Greece and put on trial for offenses that are not crimes in England. So if thats the case not only would this be France but all of Europe clamoring to kill those born with disabilities. And we want ever closer relations with the EU, kinda makes you feel all warm and fuzzy inside don't it?
9 posted on 12/18/2001 5:30:17 AM PST by Gaborn415
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To: tberry
There would go our congress! "What happened?" "It's the law, they had to go."
10 posted on 12/18/2001 5:33:51 AM PST by PatrioticAmerican
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To: tberry
"And so decrease the suplus population" C Dickinson.
11 posted on 12/18/2001 6:10:35 AM PST by Valin
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To: tberry
It is not uncommon for a nurse to ask a woman who is in the middle of a contraction whether she'd like to have her tubes tied. It usually happens when a woman is right in the middle of having her third baby.
12 posted on 12/18/2001 6:12:10 AM PST by Slyfox
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To: drc43
But France has abolished the death penalty.

But of course you know what they would say, "it's not REALLY a person."

13 posted on 12/18/2001 6:13:21 AM PST by Valin
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To: tberry
Wow...shades of Hitler's Germany. And they said it could never happen again. Once it's been established that some lives are not worth living, it's only a matter of time (and political muscle) before the definition of what is "not worth living" is expanded.
14 posted on 12/18/2001 6:17:38 AM PST by Lizavetta
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To: tberry
The one group that the French don't feel compelled to surrender to - it figures...
15 posted on 12/18/2001 6:27:25 AM PST by TADSLOS
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To: tberry
Holland has already passed euthenasia laws to take care of the elderly. This is really chilling! What can these law makers be thinking? It does not bode well for France. I hope it is not contaigous and does not spread.
16 posted on 12/18/2001 7:47:48 AM PST by wingnuts'nbolts
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To: tberry
The Vichy Republic lives!
17 posted on 12/18/2001 7:51:27 AM PST by dfwgator
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To: Gaborn415
"not only would this be France but all of Europe clamoring to kill those born with disabilities. And we want ever closer relations with the EU, kinda makes you feel all warm and fuzzy inside don't it?"

When you look at our Free Trade, UN, NATO, War Coalitions, etc. is makes you wonder how close we are to the infamous "One World Government and "New World Order" that would put these kind of people in charge of our personal freedoms.

It appears that our own government is intent on controling us completely and then I fear that control will be given over the those that see nationalism as a detriment to progress.

18 posted on 12/18/2001 7:59:55 AM PST by tberry
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