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Consumers can sign up to stop telemarketing calls (Texas)
Houston Chronicle ^ | Dec. 22, 2001 | JANETTE RODRIGUES

Posted on 12/22/2001 6:43:43 AM PST by Buffalo Bob

Hanging up on telephone hucksters is easy.

Getting them to stop calling is an entirely different matter, as Beverly Price discovered when she tried to get a carpet cleaning company to remove her from its telephone list.

"This company would call every couple of weeks," said the Clear Lake woman. "Every time they called, I would tell them to stop calling. They said they took me off their list, but they kept calling."

On New Year's Day, the list can be reached by calling toll-free number 866-TXNOCALL or going on-line to www.texasnocall.com

Starting Jan. 1, the ringing may stop. That's when Texas will start a computerized registry for people who don't want to be bothered by telemarketing intrusions.

The first published list will be available to telemarketers April 1. The business will have 60 days from the date a number appears on the list to remove it from the database.

Texas is among at least 24 states trying to put the kibosh on telemarketing calls with "do-not-call" lists, reports the Pew Center on the States, a research organization based in Richmond, Va.

The list is a computerized registry of people who don't want to be bothered by telemarketing intrusions. Companies doing business in Texas buy the database and update it quarterly.

On New Year's Day, consumers can place their names, addresses and telephone numbers on the statewide list maintained by the Texas Public Utility Commission. It costs $2.25 to register for three years.

State legislators passed the bill to start a registry last spring. It's created quite the buzz among consumers fed up with unwanted calls.

"I don't believe anything in telecommunications has produced as many calls as the do-not-call list," said Theresa Gage, a spokeswoman for the commission. "People are really excited about putting their names and numbers on this."

The concept is catching. This year, six other states also adopted laws to limit telemarketing calls, the Pew Center said.

A reported 1.5 million people in New York signed up when that state's law went into effect April 1. In Florida, almost 140,000 have paid $10 apiece to get on a registry, the center said.

Telemarketing is a $668 billion industry. The Web site of a company that tracks the industry estimates that there are several hundred call centers operating in the United States. A single computer auto-dialing numbers can make roughly 500,000 calls in about 12 hours.

Solicitors have become so abusive that the Federal Trade Commission chairman included a national do-not-call list in his new privacy agenda.

In October, FTC Chairman Timothy Muris announced plans to increase enforcement of existing privacy laws, including the one that prohibits telemarketers from calling people who have asked them to stop calling.

"There is no question that consumers are deeply concerned about the privacy of their personal information ... how it's being used ... and who is using it," he said in a news release.

Telemarketing calls are a hot-button issue. Radio Shack spokeswoman Jill Lain said one of the most popular gifts this holiday season is the TeleZapper.

A little black box that "zaps" most automated telemarketing calls, the TeleZapper fools the computer into think the number has been disconnected. The computer then hangs up, removing the number from its database.

The Better Business Bureau has some reservations about the effectiveness of such registries, especially when it comes to unscrupulous telemarketers.

"I don't think it's going to work," said Dan Parsons, executive vice president of the Better Business Bureau of Metropolitan Houston.

He has worked undercover in a "boiler room" telemarketing operation, where, he says, the goal is to call as many people as you can, pitch them a product or service and sell, sell, sell.

"The (state registry) may stop the small telemarketing companies," Parsons said, "but the big, nasty aggressive ones, the out-of-state ones, they aren't going to care about some list that says don't call."

He noted that Caller ID was touted as an unwanted-call killer but it didn't bring an end to the solicitations.

The state's do-not-call law isn't without some teeth. Consumers may file a complaint with the Public Utility Commission against a telemarketer. The state can fine the company $1,000 per violation if it breaks the law.

Mike Patterson, a NASA computer specialist, is so fed up with getting the calls that he's considered getting rid of his home phone.

"I'm thinking about getting a cell phone," he said, adding that telemarketers as far as he knows aren't using cellular numbers yet.

Patterson says he tries to be courteous to telemarketers, but he can't stand them. He tries to get them off the phone as fast as he can.

"They're why people are doing things like blocking calls, getting Caller ID and unpublished numbers," he said. "Sometimes they just won't leave you alone."

Beverly Price experienced that firsthand. She repeatedly told a North Texas carpet cleaning company to leave her alone. She asked to be put on the company's do-not-call list. But they kept calling.

For at least two years, the carpet company harassed her, she said. She thought it would stop once the state Attorney General's Office sent the company a letter, but it didn't end.

The calls didn't stop until the company was kicked out of the Better Business Bureau after Price filed a complaint.

Parsons uses her case as an example of the cavalier attitude some telemarketers have toward privacy laws. He said the do-not-call list may just be another placebo.

Price plans to look into the state's registry.

"If it can be enforced, it's a good idea," she said. "They need to do something about telemarketers."


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It costs $2.25 to register for three years.

In a perfect world, the telemarketing companies should pay this fee, not the consumer. Yet, this is a terrific step in the right direction. I'll be calling myself and will pay the fee, gladly.

1 posted on 12/22/2001 6:43:43 AM PST by Buffalo Bob
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To: Buffalo Bob
Why are these calls legal at all, anywhere?

ML/NJ

2 posted on 12/22/2001 6:51:36 AM PST by ml/nj
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To: ml/nj
Telemarketing does have its place after all!

http://members.sigecom.net/theclan/Taliban.html

3 posted on 12/22/2001 7:01:26 AM PST by yoe
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To: Buffalo Bob
We are paying $5.00 a month to block all "unknown" calls. It is wonderful! Since our day starts ar 4am, a 9pm call from a telemarketer really messed up a good night sleep.
4 posted on 12/22/2001 7:02:12 AM PST by SubMareener
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To: Buffalo Bob
Missouri did it for free. They just sue the telemarketers who keep calling, like that stupid woman that has a tv commercial every 5 minutes and claims she can read my mind, but isn't smart enough to know I don't care.

Noslrac

5 posted on 12/22/2001 7:07:28 AM PST by Noslrac
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To: Buffalo Bob; All
I recently purchased the TeleZapper mentioned in the article. On the average there are 8 computer dialed calls a day to my home (we have two unlisted numbers on one line) with no one on the other end of the connection. Add to that the 4 or 5 human beings that say, "Hello! Hello! Is anyone there?", and I'm crazy to get this stopped.

Since installing the TeleZapper (online about $50, Wal Mart about $45) I have had no calls for 4 days. It seems to be effective. Hope this information helps someone out there!

6 posted on 12/22/2001 7:08:23 AM PST by poopsie2
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To: poopsie2
Thanks for the info, how does the Zapper work?
7 posted on 12/22/2001 7:12:38 AM PST by Buffalo Bob
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To: Buffalo Bob
Unlisted phone number. When they call, immediately ask "is this a solicitation?" While they hem and haw, quickly say, "please put me on your do not call list" and they go away.
8 posted on 12/22/2001 7:20:01 AM PST by ikka
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To: Buffalo Bob
"This company would call every couple of weeks," said the Clear Lake woman. "Every time they called, I would tell them to stop calling. They said they took me off their list, but they kept calling." -- article

Her tactic is all wrong.

When I am annoyed by any business for any reason, I let them know, "Please hold, I have an important call to take, I will be right back." I have seen some salesfolks hang on for half an hour or so while I go about my normal life. They rarely call back.

9 posted on 12/22/2001 7:23:32 AM PST by Buckeroo
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To: Buffalo Bob
Now if they'd just outlaw junk faxes.....
10 posted on 12/22/2001 7:49:03 AM PST by Dallas
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To: Buffalo Bob
they're getting something like that here in Louisiana also
11 posted on 12/22/2001 7:58:27 AM PST by JediGirl
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To: Buffalo Bob
I have enabled "Anonymous Call Rejection" and subscribe to Bell South's "Privacy Director." The few that get thru, notably "Triton PCS," have apparently subscribed to some premium BS service since when I try to block that number I get the response "blocking service is not available on that line."

My satisfaction with this arrangement may be evident in my very public use of my home phone number. Harassers are quickly dissuaded.

12 posted on 12/22/2001 7:59:17 AM PST by dhuffman@awod.com
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To: Buffalo Bob
Considering what an idividual has to do, a $1000.00 fine is nothing. As for what the FTC says, thats a crock. They don't do anything.

There have been some class action lawsuits won on faxes. The Dallas Cowboys last one just a few weeks ago. A Hooter's resturant lost one a while back and declared bankruptcy.

It is possible that the class action suits could be applied to phone calls but the company doing the actual calling never has assets and usually the company hiring the telemarketer has no assets.

13 posted on 12/22/2001 8:26:32 AM PST by Ben Ficklin
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To: dhuffman@awod.com
I have enabled "Anonymous Call Rejection"

Doesn't cost you something per month?

I had four hang-up callers yesterday in a 2 1/2 hour period -which I suspect to be telemarketers- that CALL TRACE did not work on ... I don't mind talking to some of those people - it's the 'hang-up' calls that are REALLY annoying.

To make a long story short, I FINALLY got a number out of SWB for a group within SWB that is supposed to track down such calls that CALL TRACE won't work on ...

14 posted on 12/22/2001 8:28:25 AM PST by _Jim
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To: SubMareener
My problem is that I receive a lot of overseas and cell phone calls from family and friends, which show up as "unknown"... I wish it could distinguish between the real harrassers and those not actively trying to block their number. I do have a feature on my answering machine which allows me to record a special announcement for "anonymous calls", however, and so I have a message which tells the caller that I do not accept calls from those who block their numbers. But, unfortunately, most of the telemarketers use "unknown" numbers. Argh.
15 posted on 12/22/2001 8:34:20 AM PST by austinTparty
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To: Buffalo Bob
Telemarketing is a $668 billion industry

Can't be right.

16 posted on 12/22/2001 8:45:57 AM PST by The Truth Will Make You Free
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To: _Jim
ACR is bundled with a bunch of other premium services that are a small price to pay for peace of mind. "Privacy Director" is additional and I do resent it a bit. When the telemarketers get the idea then I'll cancel.
17 posted on 12/22/2001 9:02:35 AM PST by dhuffman@awod.com
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To: dhuffman@awod.com
ACR is bundled with a bunch of other premium services that are a small price to pay for peace of mind.

I was 'steered' down that path by the SWB business office folks - but I repeatedly asked them why *I* should pay for a service when it was someone else that was calling me! And *I* couldn't get CALL TRACE to give me a 'positive response' that the number was able to be 'logged' for any potential 'action' that I might be inclined to take ...

On top of that - who is to say that it's not a 'switch' malfunction that randomly 'rings' numbers throughout an exchange?? Or my area code?

Bottom line - I don't mind taking these telemarketer folks - I usually find out what part of the county they are calling from and what the weather is like - the events on 9/11 make for a *wonderful* conversation starter ...

My big complaint is with their 'gear' (telemarketers, maybe the telco itself) that may be malfunctioning and dialing 'hang-up' calls ...

18 posted on 12/22/2001 9:21:31 AM PST by _Jim
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I had four hang-up callers yesterday in a 2 1/2 hour period -which I suspect to be telemarketers- that CALL TRACE did not work on ... I don't mind talking to some of those people - it's the 'hang-up' calls that are REALLY annoying.

Some telemarketers use the barrage method, which is to simultaneously call a certain number of targets. So there may be four or five phones ringing, all associated with one person's station. As the first person answers, the others disconnect. That is why the number of incomplete calls has skyrocketed. For years now I have been telling any telemarketer who calls to remove my name and phone number from his list. Seems to be working, as I hardly ever get hang ups or even a live person. I have excellent credit, so they're not avoiding me for that reason.

19 posted on 12/22/2001 9:22:24 AM PST by AlaskaErik
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To: AlaskaErik
Some telemarketers use the barrage method, which is to simultaneously call a certain number of targets. So there may be four or five phones ringing, all associated with one person's station.

I want to 'attack' this problem from the telco end - and find out which TM agencies utilize this practice, since, I surmized sometime back and you seem to confirm, that they use such practices.

This squeaky wheel (me) just decided to 'squeak' to this aspect of the problem ...

20 posted on 12/22/2001 9:29:34 AM PST by _Jim
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