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Proof positive that this war is 100% not the fault of the US or our foreign policy
http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,41522,00.html ^

Posted on 12/26/2001 1:08:08 AM PST by Michael2001

Edited on 04/22/2004 12:31:57 AM PDT by Jim Robinson. [history]

From Hannity and Colmes a few days ago (the transcript is linked above): In a part of the Bin Laden tape that the government left untranslated Bin Laden says "You are ordered to kill until nonbelievers swear allegiance to Allah".


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I'm surprised the government overlooked this part. It would serve to prove to even the most moronic people on the left that we are fighting a just war. I listed this in breaking news even though it isn't; I figured that it probably is breaking news to some people out there.
1 posted on 12/26/2001 1:08:08 AM PST by Michael2001
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2 posted on 12/26/2001 1:12:50 AM PST by 68-69TonkinGulfYachtClub
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To: Michael2001
This is not breaking news. Maybe after a few more 9/11 type attacks it will become breaking news, but in the meantime the official news is that there are two sides to the story and we need to be more sensitive about offending Muslims.

Save your post until the world is ready for it.

3 posted on 12/26/2001 1:16:37 AM PST by bayourod
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To: Michael2001
I listed this in breaking news even though it isn't

One of two things will probably be happening in a little while, when a moderator notices this thread. Either they will move it out of breaking news, or they will delete it, if you are a repeat offender. Especially now that you have confessed to your transgression. As for your question, you know very well that the government is trying to soft pedal the idea that this attack had a religious motivation, even though it does, because they fear that it would lead to 'hate crimes' against innocent Moslems.

4 posted on 12/26/2001 1:23:38 AM PST by Lucius Cornelius Sulla
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To: bayourod
World is officially ready, dude
5 posted on 12/26/2001 1:24:37 AM PST by DooDahhhh
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To: Michael2001
Just how did all those extremists happen to migrate to Afghanistan and become funded and weaponized to the extent they were?

Who's foreign policy caused that? Switzerland?

Congressman: U.S. Set Up Anti-Taliban to be Slaughtered

6 posted on 12/26/2001 1:34:25 AM PST by mindprism.com
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To: Michael2001
I have faith in the Executive Branch enforcing the laws of this country in a fair, swift and very significant way.

A formal congressional declaration of war
- that is, congressional acknowledgment of the mere state of facts
in which the American people now finds itself and must LIVE through,
now and for the foreseeable future --
seems to me to be the very least anyone can reasonably expect, nay,
DEMAND,
from their elected public officials
......bettyboop

The state of the elected representatives is sorely lacking to say the least! What exactly would it take to bring these public servants into servicing their public? A suitcase nuke detonated in yet another American City or National land mark? Perhaps a blood or nerve agent strategically released to actually create massive casualties instead of just test the veracity of the U.S.Postal System? What, you think they havent already thought of and planned to execute such plans?!?

My Commander-in-Chief, the Executive Branch, my fellow brothers in arms, and the true dedicated patriots still left in this Great Nation are the only glimer of hope this country has right now. If you count yourself included in one of these categories. GOD BLESS YOU.

Delta 21

...and still no one has been able to give me a valid definition of what a hate crime is. One thing I know for sure, WAR is WAR and thats just how we are treating this.

7 posted on 12/26/2001 1:38:29 AM PST by Delta 21
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To: Michael2001
There is no turning back indeed, and we are fools to think that the Islamic bureacratic machinery and war can be stopped with good wishes. There are too many Islamists who have put their heart and soul in that evil and who cannot go back. Worrisome is the high numbers of so called moderate who call the tape fake and who still blame US foreign policy.
8 posted on 12/26/2001 1:49:15 AM PST by lavaroise
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To: Michael2001
I'm shocked! Shocked to think the US government would LIE to it's own people!
9 posted on 12/26/2001 1:56:48 AM PST by Zorobabel
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To: 68-69TonkinGulfYatchClub
Check your freepMail


10 posted on 12/26/2001 2:10:15 AM PST by Delta 21
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To: Michael2001
Actualy I think WWIII is in while we are sleeping. Even India knows better than us. India is not preparing for war on terror, India is preparing for WWIII as shown below

Heightening tensions along border part of China's gameplan
Jaideep Mazumdar
Kolkata, December 25

The “hostile actions” by the Chinese in Arunachal Pradesh and Sikkim is, according to strategic experts, part of a well-thought-out move to corner India on two fronts. China has also beefed up its presence in Myanmar’s Coco Islands on the Bay of Bengal and plans to move in two aircraft carriers that are under construction now to the area.

“India cannot concentrate exclusively on the western theatre with Pakistan if China undertakes these measures along Arunachal and Sikkim. And it could well be that it is goading Pakistan to anti-Indian actions in Rajasthan, Punjab and Kashmir. A distracted India is a weaker India and China stands to gain the most from it,” pointed out a senior army officer.

In fact, say serving and retired officer, the situation now is quite similar to the pre-1962 situation when Beijing lulled New Delhi into a false sense of complacency.

China constructed a load linking Tibet with Xinjiang Ugyur region in 1961. This road passed through Aksai Chin area of India and to thwart any further moves by Chibna, India sent its troops to defend that territory in November 1961. By October 1962, China launched a full-scale aggression.

“This time, too, China has started acting on its claims over Arunachal and Sikkim and has constructed roads and rail links right up to our borders. It is encouraging new Chinese towns just across the border to spill over slowly into India. It is upgrading its formidable military infrastructure in the Small Coco and Great Coco Islands by stationing radar squadrons, extending two runways and beefing up the naval base there.

"At the same time, Chinese leaders are talking of peaceful resolution of the border issue with India and are trying to charm the Indian leadership into thinking that China is no threat to India. Our Foreign Minister said as much when he visited Beijing in June 1999, though our Defence Minister did say in April 1998 that China continues to represent a security threat to us,” said a retired army officer who did not want to be named.

China, said a strategic expert, has a “long memory” and has never shied away on taking concrete action on its territorial claims.

“Look at tactics China has employed to keep Japan and other countries on a leash. Apart from keeping India under pressure on the eastern front, China has been employing Pakistan as a surrogate belligerent to jeopardize India’s security,” said an analyst.

China has also been sending out conflicting signals—a few months after Jaswant Singh declared that China was no security threat to India, Chinese President Jiang Zemin made highly derogatory references to India while speaking to President Bill Clinton.

Zemin reportedly said that India would be dealt with strongly if it does not stop providing shelter to Tibetan refugees and continues to oppose China’s efforts to integrate Arunachal and Sikkim with the rest of that country. The USA’s Central Intelligence Agency sums it the best: “Beijing treats India as a country to be threatened, belittled and kept in check”. This, and other such assessments by the CIA, can be found in the CIA Factbooks.

According to the army sources, India will take at least a decade to upgrade its infrastructure in the North East to what China has on its side of the LAC now. It is learnt that the Indian Air Force (IAF) installations in the eastern and northeastern region have also been put on alert.

(Concluded)

Part I: Tensions flare along Sino-Indian border

11 posted on 12/26/2001 2:23:01 AM PST by lavaroise
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> Proof positive that this war is 100% not the fault of the US or our foreign policy

LOL! Yes, and if you close your eyes no one can see you.

12 posted on 12/26/2001 2:57:46 AM PST by John Deere
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To: Srpska Vatra
All of the cowards and liberal pukes in this country would be moore than happy to mouth the words "I believe in Allah".
15 posted on 12/26/2001 3:09:11 AM PST by Khepera
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To: Srpska Vatra
Please: NO profanity, NO personal attacks, NO racism or violence in posts.

Two post and you called him a moron and an idiot. How about trying to debate without name calling your fellow freeper?

17 posted on 12/26/2001 3:26:24 AM PST by snippy_about_it
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To: lavaroise
I'll side with India anyday. I think that they are a force for good in the world whereas China is as much a force of darkness as is Islamic fundamentalism.

I've met many Indians and they've always been nice and more on our wavelength than the communist chinese.

China is about like saddam's iraq. Blow hards, all.

19 posted on 12/26/2001 3:39:11 AM PST by chantal7
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To: Srpska Vatra
I hope you had a great Christmas my friend.
20 posted on 12/26/2001 4:01:09 AM PST by Michael2001
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