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An armed society is a polite society. Robert A. Heinein "I "overblown huffery and puffery" Stultis post 440 of Anti-Evolution Bill in Mississippi

Churchill on Islam:

"How dreadful are the curses which Mohammedanism lays on its votaries! Besides the fanatical frenzy, which is as dangerous in a man as hydrophobia in a dog, there is this fearful fatalistic apathy. The effects are apparent in many countries. Improvident habits, slovenly systems of agriculture, sluggish methods of commerce, and insecurity of property exist wherever the followers of the Prophet rule or live.

A degraded sensualism deprives this life of its grace and refinement; the next of its dignity and sanctity. The fact that in Mohammedan law every woman must belong to some man as his absolute property; either as a child, a wife, or a concubine; must delay the final extinction of slavery until the faith of Islam has ceased to be a great power among men.


Individual Moslems may show splendid qualities. Thousands become the brave and loyal soldiers of the Queen; all know how to die; but the influence of the religion paralyses the social development of those who follow it. No stronger retrograde force exists in the world. Far from being moribund, Mohammedanism is a militant and proselytizing faith.

It has already spread throughout Central Africa, raising fearless warriors at every step; and were it not that Christianity is sheltered in the strong arms of science, the science against which it had vainly struggled, the civilisation of modern Europe might fall, as fell the civilisation of ancient Rome."
Sir Winston Churchill, from The River War, first edition, Vol. II, pages 248 50 (London: Longmans, Green & Co., 1899).

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post 43 Right Wing Conspiratr http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1520642/posts

told about evo not abio

Kansas did, indeed redefine science. Here's the original: "Science is the human activity of seeking natural explanations for what we observe in the world around us."

And here's the new version:

"Science is a systematic method of continuing investigation that uses observations, hypothesis testing, measurement, experimentation, logical argument and theory building to lead to more adequate explanations of natural phenomena."

The new version does not specify natural explanations.

harun yaha, mustafa akyol, holocaust denial Jihad Watch: Bat Ye'or vs. Mustafa Akyol on Islam's "Golden Age"

http://www.jihadwatch.org/archives/003675.php

Evolution of Altruism:

Greenbeards with blue throats shed new light on the evolution of altruistic behavior http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/1628471/posts?page=1

Baby Fae:

The Unlearned Lesson

more baby fae:

http://zoology.okstate.edu/zoo_fclt/lovern/antolin_herbers2001.pdf

11:53 AM Evolution, Vol 55 No.12 (2001) Perspective: Evolution’s Struggle For Existence In America’s Public Schools http://zoology.okstate.edu/zoo_fclt/lovern/antolin_herbers2001.pdf Ethical and procedural questions aside, a troubling aspect of the story is that Leonard Bailey, the lead surgeon for Baby Fae’s operation, when interviewed by the Australian Broadcasting Corporation (1985), admitted to being a fundamentalist.* Bailey described how he chose baboons as donors because their hearts were the right size and were available. Furthermore he said, ‘‘The scientists that are keen on the evolutionary concept that we actually developed serially from subhuman primates to humans, with mitochondrial DNA dating and that sort of thing, the differences have to do with millions of years. That boggles my mind somehow. I don’t understand it well, and I’m not sure that it means a great deal in terms of tissue homology.’’ * The original broadcast was June 3, 1985, during the program Health Report hosted by Dr. Norman Swan.

How many scientists are atheists? http://www.asa3.org/archive/asa/199808/0005.html

post 305 describes the fake cartoons:

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1571682/posts?q=1&&page=301

" A well-regulated Militia, being necessary for the security of a Free State, the right of the People to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed." Parsed: Primary Clause - "...the right of the People to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed." "the right (not privilege) of (belonging to) the People (as with all other iterations in the Constitution: INDIVIDUAL CITIZENS) to keep (own) and bear (carry, implicitly: on their persons) arms (implements of warfare; including but not limited to light arms, shoulder arms, side-arms, cannon, warships [see Letters of Marque and Reprisal], military blades, and military grade armor) *shall not be infringed* (first future NEGATIVE indicative in the passive voice plus the perfect participle of "to infringe" - to abridge, cut short, trespass: at no time is ever to be diluted, prevented, or reduced) This IRREDUCIBLE right described in this clause is a necessary precondition for the existence of the subject of the first Dependent Clause. NOTE: The primary clause is a precondition of the dependent clauses. The primary clause remains valid even if the dependent clauses (and the matters they describe) are excised, and is in no way limited to or by the matters described in the dependent clauses. 1st Dependent Clause - "A well-regulated Militia," A well-regulated (debatable meaning, but definitely including having their own military arms, ammunition, sundry other equipment, and trained skill in their use) Militia (sum total of the citizenry meeting the standards set in the USC) A well-armed and proficient POPULACE of men between 17-45 years of age is the "well-regulated militia", a sub-set of "the People". The right to keep and bear arms is NOT restricted to the subset. Rather, it is clear that for the subset to be possible, the whole populace must have the right to have and use military arms in order to be able to produce and maintain this "militia" subset. and WHY is that important? 2nd Dependent Clause - "being necessary for the security of a Free State," being (imperfect participle of "to be" - "is now and shall continue to be") necessary (REQUIRED, essential, mandatory) for (belonging to/provided to/towards the purpose of)the security (safety, cohesion, and stability) of a FREE (in American parlance: republican, rule of law, laws sharply limited by natural rights of individuals, no legal class or caste system, strictly egalitarian) State (sociopolitical entity with set borders, internally common culture and currency) NOTE: This indicates that a generally armed populace is needed to create the Militia (militarily armed prime male populace) which is in turn a required entity for maintaining not simply a State but a FREE State. The founders were well aware that a militia (and the armed populace from which it derives) is not only not needed for the security of a non-free state, it is actually a threat to the continued existence of such a tyranny. A non-free state needs only its state-sponsored military. As is made abundantly clear, the founders decided to make CERTAIN that any state-sponsored military would be enormously out-manned and out-gunned by the populace at-large. There endeth the english/civics lesson. It is a real pity this sort of lesson need ever be handed out. 312 posted on 03/15/2006 1:54:43 PM PST by King Prout Darwin on slavery: In Voyage of the Beagle Chapter XXI .... On the 19th of August we finally left the shores of Brazil, I thank God, I shall never again visit a slave-country. To this day, if I hear a distant scream, it recalls with painful vividness my feelings, when passing a house near Pernambuco, I heard the most pitiable moans, and could not but suspect that some poor slave was being tortured, yet knew that I was as powerless as a child even to remonstrate. I suspected that these moans were from a tortured slave, for I was told that this was the case in another instance. Near Rio de Janeiro I lived opposite to an old lady, who kept screws to crush the fingers of her female slaves. I have stayed in a house where a young household mulatto, daily and hourly, was reviled, beaten, and persecuted enough to break the spirit of the lowest animal. I have seen a little boy, six or seven years old, struck thrice with a horse-whip (before I could interfere) on his naked head, for having handed me a glass of water not quite clean; I saw his father tremble at a mere glance from his master's eye. These latter cruelties were witnessed by me in a Spanish colony, in which it has always been said, that slaves are better treated than by the Portuguese, English, or other European nations. I have seen at Rio de Janeiro a powerful negro afraid to ward off a blow directed, as he thought, at his face. I was present when a kind-hearted man was on the point of separating forever the men, women, and little children of a large number of families who had long lived together. I will not even allude to the many heart-sickening atrocities which I authentically heard of; nor would I have mentioned the above revolting details, had I not met with several people, so blinded by the constitutional gaiety of the negro as to speak of slavery as a tolerable evil. Such people have generally visited at the houses of the upper classes, where the domestic slaves are usually well treated; land they have not, like myself, lived amongst the lower classes. Such inquirers will ask slaves about their condition; they forget that the slave must indeed be dull, who does not calculate on the chance of his answer reaching his master's ears. 34 It is argued that self-interest will prevent excessive cruelty; as if self-interest protected our domestic animals, which are far less likely than degraded slaves, to stir up the rage of their savage masters. It is an argument long since protested against with noble feeling, and strikingly exemplified, by the ever-illustrious Humboldt. It is often attempted to palliate slavery by comparing the state of slaves with our poorer countrymen: if the misery of our poor be caused not by the laws of nature, but by our institutions, great is our sin; but how this bears on slavery, I cannot see; as well might the use of the thumb-screw be defended in one land, by showing that men in another land suffered from some dreadful disease. Those who look tenderly at the slave owner, and with a cold heart at the slave, never seem to put themselves into the position of the latter; what a cheerless prospect, with not even a hope of change! picture to yourself the chance, ever hanging over you, of you wife and your little children—those objects which nature urges even the slave to call his own—being torn from you and sold like beasts to the first bidder! And these deeds are done and palliated by men, who profess to love their neighbours as themselves, who believe in God, and pray that his Will be done on earth! It makes one's blood boil, yet heart tremble, to think that we Englishmen and our American descendants, with their boastful cry of liberty, have been and are so guilty: but it is a consolation to reflect, that we at least have made a greater sacrifice, than ever made by any nation, to expiate our sin. from http://www.bartleby.com/29/21.html Beneficial Mutation http://www.secs.iub.edu.bd/TechNews/ScienceTech/science/009.htm Changed:1:08 PM on Monday, June 6, 2005 evo of the eye: There is nothing even slightly sudden about vision. One celled critters have eyespots...that is part of the cell that is responsive to the part of the em spectrum we call light. Mobility makes developing a front and a back, plus the ability to perceive what's out there definitely advantageous, so any dna mutation that permits it will be conserved and built upon. Here are two discussions that might help: 1. good approach showing the sequences and feasability: The Evolution of the Eye http://www.d.umn.edu/~olse0176/Evolution/evoeye.html 2. nice article on modern "eye-ness"

To: Jaguarbhzrd

Creationists make it sound as though a theory is something you dreamt up after being drunk all night. -Isaac Asimov

Shake off all the fears of servile prejudices, under which weak minds are servilely crouched. Fix reason firmly in her seat, and call on her tribunal for every fact, every opinion. Question with boldness even the existence of a God; because, if there be one, he must more approve of the homage of reason than that of blindfolded fear. -Thomas Jefferson

Because they know not the forces of nature, and in order that they may have comrades in their ignorance, they suffer not that others should search out anything, and would have us believe like rustics and ask no reason... But we ask in all things a reason must be sought. -William of Conches

Scientists were rated as great heretics by the church, but they were truly religious men because of their faith in the orderliness of the universe. -Albert Einstein

To surrender to ignorance and call it God has always been premature, and it remains premature today. -Isaac Asimov

435 posted on 11/20/2006 10:32:42 PM PST by Jaguarbhzrd

Harun Yaha=Adnan okar scroll to definitively violate npov