Posted on 12/21/2004 12:25:42 PM PST by hk409
Edited on 12/21/2004 12:54:14 PM PST by Admin Moderator. [history]
Glad to help!
Oooooh, you're one of the "all unenumerated powers are in the Preamble" crowd. If you weren't the King, I would feel quite negatively about that ...
But aside from that, I'm just a Month and Day person. Christmas, Halloween, Veterans' Day ... What's Thanksgiving doing on the THURSDAY, anyway?
Halloween in America is a purely secular holiday, a time of partying and festivity and spooks and scares, very like the old harvest festival/welcome to winter celebration it was in the old pagan era before the christian missionaries swiped it for its PR value.
another thing:
>in 1863, Lincoln proclaimed the last Thursday in November as a national day of Thanksgiving.
>Franklin Roosevelt set it to the next-to-last Thursday (in order to create a longer Christmas shopping season).
>Public uproar against this decision caused FDR to move Thanksgiving back to the final Thursday two years later.
>in 1941, Thanksgiving was sanctioned by Congress as a legal holiday, always to fall on the fourth Thursday in November.
'sides... Easter Sunday is a floater, too, so there's no bloody excuse even on a religious basis.
Point being: "Holidays" are flexible animals.
I can see NO reason this cannot be pursued.
I just don't know how to go about doing it.
see post 2263 for that information.
no, I am not one of those "all unenumerated powers are in the Preamble" people. the ";)" was meant to clue you in on the jocular nature of that remark.
I should like to point out that currently Daylight Savings Time ends on the last Sunday in October, sometimes coinciding with Halloween, as it did recently.
This put the kiddies out wandering the streets in the darkness, not a good idea.
With Halloween statuted on the last Friday of the month, this would never happen again.
Oops, not never.
Maybe less often.
yeah - that, too.
good point!
Have a safe trip! I hope to see you when you get a chance to use the computer.
It was originally a Christian holiday, "all halows eve" but like with Christmas, excuse me, X-mas as PC people are supposed to say now. I hate it how people are trying to remove all Christian meaning from holidays, then they say Santa shouldn't be allowed because that is mixing church and state, when it was the idiot secular people that invented santa.I say we should abandon all religious meaning from Christmas, let it be a day when people waste money, and celebrate Jesus' birthday on another day. You know America spent 220 billion dollars this last Christmas? Imagine if instead of spending all that money we had given it to the poor, seems completely wiping out poverty would be a better way to spend Christmas than
Um...you tripped over a lamp cord. My halo is natural. It doesn't need an external power source. ;-)
Glad we sorted that out.
sorry, pal - the pagan harvest festival called samhain (prn: "sow-wen") was swiped by missionaries plying their trade in Celtic Europe and "christianized"
Just as the date of what we of (Roman) Christendom (and, later, the Protestant derivatives) call "Christmas" was swiped and retrofitted from the Pagan Yule or Winter Solstice festival. Christ was not born on 25 December. IIRC the best chronologies place the date of birth in March.
Many "patron saints" are transmogrifications of elder gods and spirits - the attributes of these mythological entities became associated with celebrated Christian figures (some of whom definitely lived, others...?)
This was all a PR sell - switch creeds, keep the fun parties and minor deities under new names.
You may not like it, but facts are immune to such concerns.
Is there an equivalent of "Scrooge" for Halloween? If so, I'm it!
:)
um... I don't think there is a Scrooge equivalent for Halloween.
by equivalent, do you mean pre-ghosts Scrooge, or post-ghosts Scrooge?
Pre-ghosts.
figgers ;)
;-)
Candy ... blech.
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