400,000 year old spears found in an German coal mine!

reinep.wordpress.com ^ | 07-04-2010 | Staff

[muawiyah]

Horses weren't all that big ~ about zebra size in fact.

The modern horse is much larger than its ancestors thanks to controlled breeding by humans who liked big horses.

Even today killing and butchering a zebra is not without effort, although if you use a firearm it cuts out a lot of the preliminary stuff.

[Docbarleypop]

in school we butchered an elk using stone tools, much tougher than using my Kershaws but knowing the connection of the muscles we could minimize the heavy cutting and we used pressure flaked chips much more than handaxes.

[SunkenCiv]

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[GraceG]

Only 394,000 years before God created the Universe.....

[Red Badger]

Even today killing and butchering a zebra is not without effort, although if you use a firearm it cuts out a lot of the preliminary stuff.

LOL!......Yeah, like chasing down the wounded animal for miles..............

[BenLurkin]

More “scientists” with over-active imaginations.

[blam]

Stranger In A New Land

"Brawny, brainy, armed with cutting-edge technology--this was the hominid hero Hollywood would have cast in the role, a picture-perfect pioneer. Too perfect, it turns out. Over the past few years, researchers working at a site called Dmanisi in the Republic of Georgia have unearthed a trove of spectacularly well preserved human fossils, stone tools and animal remains dated to around 1.75 million years ago--nearly half a million years older than the 'Ubeidiya remains."

[null and void]

Distance running is one of the few places where a human can outdo an animal.

These Toes Were Made for Running

With our lack of insulating fur and our watery, cooling sweat a naked human can run a bunny into heat exhaustion.

[668 - Neighbor of the Beast]

How do they know they weren’t fishing poles, barbecue spits, or poles in a carrying rig, or Clampett pot passers?

[Terriergal]

strong enough to kill them by throwing spears, perhaps ambushing herds that showed up for water. “There’s no question if you are hunting a group of horses coming along a lake, you must be strong.You have to plan it. You have to organize it,

Not to mention making the spears. 0.o

So, are we saying that humans appeared on the scene with more than an apelike intelligence?

I dunno, i just saw video of a guy killing an elk with a spear. (shrug) What do they mean by "strong"?

[SunkenCiv]

Nothing imaginary about it:

The three spears, each carved from the trunk of a spruce tree, are 6 feet to more than 7 feet long. They were found with more than 10,000 animal bones, mostly from horses, including many obviously butchered.

[Red Badger]

How do they know they weren’t fishing poles...

They didn't find an ancient Bass ProShop nearby?...............

[BenLurkin]

Color me skeptical -- particularly as to the 400,000 BC date. There just weren't no people back then.

[muawiyah]

The details here have to do with HUNTING rather than SCAVENGING.

The fact they had carefully prepared wooden spears shows they actively hunted game. Having stone tools merely means they cut meat up before eating it.

One of the strong thesis is that early man didn't hunt. Rather, relying on his smarts he let other animals, e.g. lions, tigers, bears, wolves ~ kill game which he then stole and ate himself!

[Redcitizen]

” if you are hunting a group of horses coming along a lake, you must be strong.You have to plan it. You have to organize it...”

Reminds me of Al Gore and his claims of being a hunter.

[D_Idaho]

Well, you certainly can’t argue with the evidence you produced.

[muawiyah]

See the listing for Neandertalis? Click back a tad and you'll find Heidelbergensis. He's not talked about as much because they aren't found so often.

There were OTHERS just recently discovered.

Here's the deal, there've been 21 major glacial periods over the last couple of million years. They are divided up into about 100,000 years of cold and 10,000 years of warmth called Interglacials.

Sometimes there are periods of less than 10,000 years warmth and they are called interstadials.

Human beings are smart. They move North when it's warm and South when it's cold. The result is that humanity gets adapted and readapted over and over and over in broad cycles.

Sometimes groups get left behind and they do a different sort of adaptation. The result is the constant creation and recreation of "the people", until, at last, here we are, prepared to enter the crucible again.

[wardaddy]

more evidence debunking convenient untruths and explaining things many wish weren’t so obvious

[muawiyah]

Supposedly there are NO animals of any kind that can outlast a human in a long distance run ~ one problem is the animal's inferior attention span. They tire, take a break, forget what was up, and next thing we're on them!

This last year after watching the Winter Olympics I found out what the performance characteristics of well conditioned skiers were. Seems they can go DOWNHILL on the standard courses at about 65 MPH average speed, and UPHILL on the same courses at about 5 MPH. No doubt there are individuals and hills where the actual results vary from these figures but over 50 kilometers, that's what I derived from the race records.

Now that's pretty good and explains something very important ~ cheetas can go faster for a short distance. Reindeer can actually get up to that speed for a good long time. Wolves are much slower (35 MPH tops), and so on.

Turns out a man on skis on snow can outperform every animal that can run on or in snow! But it's not just "outperform", a man can simply go to the top of a hill and ski down into the midst of a herd of animals in a valley and have his take of the herd ~ most likely without breaking a sweat.

I was looking for a reason why human beings could have moved into subarctic regions dominated by wolves and bears, and there it was ~ clear as day ~ people were the top predators! They could move faster than the wolves or bears AND, best of all, take game at a very high percentage of attempts ~ thereby starving out the bears and wolves and leaving the herds to the people!

BTW, I predict that someday they'll find a Neandertal with skis.

[djf]

Horse - the other white meat!!