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Oldest Roman body armour found in Germany
The History Blog ^ | September, 2020

Posted on 10/24/2020 2:34:48 PM PDT by LibWhacker

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To: LibWhacker

Interesting how 150 years can cause people to look at the Battle of the Teutoburg Forest in a completely different light.
Back in 1851 a book by Creasy on “The Fifteen Decisive Battles of the World: from Marathon to Waterloo” states,
“that victory secured at once and forever the independence of the Teutonic race.”
Which eventually brought about the rise of the great Kings, German composers and writers and Statesmen of the that time-1800s.

Not long ago I read another essay on the battle about how if the Romans had kept their hold on Germany it would have infused the Germans with Roman Law and philosophy, and as a result there would have been no Hitler.


21 posted on 10/24/2020 3:28:13 PM PDT by Ruy Dias de Bivar
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To: \/\/ayne

Brisco was good.


22 posted on 10/24/2020 3:29:53 PM PDT by wally_bert (I cannot be sure for certain, but in my personal opinion I am certain that I am not sure.)
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To: LibWhacker

No, if he was wounded, you just finish him off. No Geneva (Lat. Genava) Convention back then.


23 posted on 10/24/2020 3:47:14 PM PDT by UnbelievingScumOnTheOtherSide (Reverse Wickard v Filburn (1942) - and - ISLAM DELENDA EST)
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To: Husker24

Heavily regulated, I’m afraid. Even worse than here. I used to take my metal detector almost anywhere, without worry. Now, you’ve got to make sure you’ve got everyone’s permission: property owner (always required, of course), city, state, county, feds.

And God forbid if you’re caught detecting a historical site. Fines, even jail. And your pride-and-joy detector is sure to be confiscated. I quit going out almost 20 years ago.

Oh, and did I mention, Europe is much worse? Shame on you if you dig up a brass button that’s so heavily encrusted and corroded you can hardly tell it from a clod. It’s an invaluable historical treasure to some weenie at a university somewhere who specializes in clods, doncha know?


24 posted on 10/24/2020 3:55:24 PM PDT by LibWhacker
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To: UnbelievingScumOnTheOtherSide

The Geneva Convention has nothing to do with it. Sometimes there are good reasons to keep prisoners alive, if only briefly.


25 posted on 10/24/2020 3:59:43 PM PDT by LibWhacker
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To: LibWhacker
This was an iron collar connected to two handcuffs that locked a prisoner’s hands in front of his neck. The Romans used them to shackle prisoners destined for slavery.

The Legions at the Teutonburg Forest had no use for the iron collars. I guess that the Barbarians knew what to do with them.

26 posted on 10/24/2020 4:00:09 PM PDT by centurion316
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To: LibWhacker; SunkenCiv

They belonged to Maximus


27 posted on 10/24/2020 4:35:18 PM PDT by Tennessee Nana
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To: LibWhacker; centurion316; katana; UnbelievingScumOnTheOtherSide
I’m just trying to imagine the scene here... just one scenario that may or may not have anything to do with reality...

Here's another possibility - what if he was a prisoner of the Romans, rather than the Germans? Perhaps an insubordinate or panic-stricken officer; the fighting occurred over a period of days, and discipline may have begun to fail at some point...

28 posted on 10/24/2020 4:35:34 PM PDT by Who is John Galt? ('Urban Dictionary' - a website of the urban dicks, by the urban dicks, and for the urban dicks.)
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To: LibWhacker

I’d say some steel wool and some good buffing compound and it will be like new in no time


29 posted on 10/24/2020 4:36:52 PM PDT by Lib-Lickers 2
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To: LibWhacker

There is plenty of juicy territory in Eastern Europe that ill be is much less regulated.


30 posted on 10/24/2020 4:45:27 PM PDT by Husker24
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To: katana
Dagger through the eye socket

I see your point, nyuk, nyuk.

No, seriously, very plausible, thank you.

31 posted on 10/24/2020 5:09:41 PM PDT by LibWhacker
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To: Husker24

Ahhh, very juicy. Maybe even more so than Western Europe.


32 posted on 10/24/2020 5:14:02 PM PDT by LibWhacker
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To: Ruy Dias de Bivar
“VARUS! GIVE ME BACK MY LEGIONS!”-Augustus

Beat me to it. Always glad to hear of another Roman history buff.

33 posted on 10/24/2020 5:56:11 PM PDT by sima_yi ( Reporting live from the far North)
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To: Who is John Galt?

It could have been space aliens.


34 posted on 10/24/2020 6:28:11 PM PDT by centurion316
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To: LibWhacker
So... just go through and quickly shackle all the enemy, dead or alive.

They were a rough bunch - probably just slit their throats and moved on.

35 posted on 10/24/2020 6:50:27 PM PDT by Oatka
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To: centurion316
It could have been space aliens.

And it could have been an American police department - lefties claim they kill prisoners all the time, just for fun, especially on Saturdays...

/s

36 posted on 10/24/2020 7:09:49 PM PDT by Who is John Galt? (Mit Pulver und Blei, die Gedanken sind frei... ;^)
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To: Ruy Dias de Bivar

*Publius Quinctilius Varus blundered into a German ambush

Arminius (the Barbarian leader) was an ex-roman legionnaire and as such would have been intimately familiar with the layout of legionnaire encampments. I suspect it was a night slaughter by vastly outnumbered Germanic natives who took advantage of the overconfident, sleeping Roman invaders.


37 posted on 10/24/2020 7:26:35 PM PDT by Western Phil
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To: LibWhacker; Ezekiel
When they wanted to, those Romans could do some pretty nifty metal work.

Ear ring can be found in the MFA, Boston. [C. 350 to 325 B.C.],

38 posted on 10/24/2020 8:38:52 PM PDT by Daffynition (*Mega Dittoes and Mega Prayers* & :))
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To: thesearethetimes...; Tennessee Nana; StayAt HomeMother; Ernest_at_the_Beach; 1ofmanyfree; ...
Thanks for the pings!

39 posted on 10/24/2020 10:20:54 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (Imagine an imaginary menagerie manager imagining managing an imaginary menagerie.)
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To: LibWhacker

I love the format. What a presentation.


40 posted on 10/24/2020 10:26:11 PM PDT by CJ Wolf (#wwg1wga #Godwins - What is scarier than offensive words? Not being able to say them..)
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