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Area youth's toothy find spurs archaeological inquiries
Waco Tribune-Herald ^
| Wednesday, October 25, 2006
| Cindy V. Culp
Posted on 10/25/2006 10:35:28 PM PDT by SunkenCiv
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Mammoth told me there'd be days like these.
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posted on
10/25/2006 10:35:30 PM PDT
by
SunkenCiv
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posted on
10/25/2006 10:36:23 PM PDT
by
SunkenCiv
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To: SunkenCiv
Found most of a mammoth skull in a river bank outside of Corpus back in 1966.
Took it to the local college and found out they had a room full from the area.
Decided just fishing had a better payback.
This is a nice story, glad the dog got home, not much as news goes.
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posted on
10/26/2006 12:00:58 AM PDT
by
norton
To: SunkenCiv
"prehistoric mammoths dying from a single event"...
A hundred thousand hungry neanderthals with rocks and sharp sticks?
It's about time somebody in the science community admits that there have been major cataclysms in the past.
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posted on
10/26/2006 2:45:41 AM PDT
by
djf
(I'm not ISLAMOPHOBIC, just BOMBOPHOBIC!! Whether that's the same is up to Islam!!!)
To: norton
It was a valuable find though. You got to tell us about it and we are impressed.
My fossils are mostly trivial in comparison.
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posted on
10/26/2006 4:20:49 AM PDT
by
bert
(K.E. N.P. We will screw you inshallah)
To: djf
Yeah, I thought that was a great tidbit to excerpt. :')
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posted on
10/26/2006 5:47:29 AM PDT
by
SunkenCiv
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To: djf
I read once that mastodons found frozen in Siberia were supposedly "flash frozen", with little cellular damage, and the remains of buttercup flowers in their stomachs. Sounds UL'ish to me, but it is true that the meat has been deemed fairly edible and a welcome addition to the prevailing fare at least.
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10/26/2006 5:50:09 AM PDT
by
Freedom4US
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a 1978 find that has become internationally known as the Waco Mammoth Site. Located near the Bosque River, it contains an entire herd and represents the largest known concentration of prehistoric mammoths dying from a single event...
:') But seriously, I've not looked into this.
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10/26/2006 5:53:28 AM PDT
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SunkenCiv
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To: SunkenCiv
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posted on
10/26/2006 6:25:59 AM PDT
by
Dustbunny
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To: Freedom4US
Flash frozen mammoths, not mastodons, were found in Siberia. :')
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10/26/2006 6:38:38 AM PDT
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SunkenCiv
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To: SunkenCiv; Freedom4US
*shrug* The best grazing is right at the base of the glaciers. The glaciers act as a windbreak, and there is plenty of water and sunlight reflecting off the ice, providing the best warmth and light for plant growth.
The down side is big slabs of ice break off the face.
A mammoth grazing a bit too near when this happens is instantly pounded into the permafrost and buried in ice.
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posted on
10/26/2006 7:13:18 AM PDT
by
null and void
(Age and experience -- It makes no sense to get one without the other. - Sundog)
To: null and void
No, the gist of the article, which I recall was part of a geology class - large hunks of meat like wooly mammoth mammoth do not lend themselves to being flash frozen. The implication was that temperatures shifted to well below freezing in a matter of seconds, the result of some cataclysmic event. Again, it sounds like a UL to me...
To: Freedom4US
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posted on
10/26/2006 7:23:41 AM PDT
by
null and void
(Age and experience -- It makes no sense to get one without the other. - Sundog)
To: null and void
The best grazing is right at the base of the glaciers.
That's where I do all mine. ;')
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10/26/2006 7:36:51 AM PDT
by
SunkenCiv
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To: djf
"A hundred thousand hungry neanderthals with rocks and sharp sticks?" How about a hundred hungry neanderthals with rocks and sharp sticks over a thousand years? Im not a proponent of the human caused extinction theories but we do have a site up here that shows how effective early humans were at hunting. At this site it appears that the paleo-indians made a habit of chasing herds into the same bog and butchering whatever got stuck and they apparently did it for quite a while...
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posted on
10/26/2006 8:18:17 AM PDT
by
gnarledmaw
(I traded freedom for security and all I got were these damned shackles.)
To: Freedom4US
When Toba in Sumatra erupted 75,000 years ago, ocean temps worldwide plunged about 10 degrees F for over 2,000 years.
But AFAIK there has been no supervolcano events in the last 30,000 years to explain mammoth problems.
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posted on
10/26/2006 8:24:57 AM PDT
by
djf
(I'm not ISLAMOPHOBIC, just BOMBOPHOBIC!! Whether that's the same is up to Islam!!!)
To: djf
I guess that wouldnt be an example of a "single" event but unless all the specimens at a given site were tested then, were I the investigator at a site, I wouldnt jump to the conclusion that all of them were from a single event. Ive read too many stories about some theory being dumped on its head, because the "truth" everyone clung to was based on some past scientist making an assumption, to accept most science as absolute fact.
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posted on
10/26/2006 8:32:44 AM PDT
by
gnarledmaw
(I traded freedom for security and all I got were these damned shackles.)
To: gnarledmaw
I understand.
But imagine... gold miners in Alaska were stunned becuse they found something. Being miners and not scientists, they called it simply "muck".
It was (and still is) a mix of rocks, mud, plant material and bones... bones of hundreds of animals, many crushed almost beyond recognition, all this stuff smashed up and blended together like a cosmic blender of sorts.
LOTS of it!
None of the stuff fits into a nice standard theory of "Well, the critter died, it's body floated down the river and he was partially eaten by fish and otters, then his bones settled on the bottom..."
It is evidence of some unbelievably powerful cataclysmic event. A scientist I asked about it says some folks think a comet hit about 11,500 years ago.
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10/26/2006 8:44:02 AM PDT
by
djf
(I'm not ISLAMOPHOBIC, just BOMBOPHOBIC!! Whether that's the same is up to Islam!!!)
To: djf
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posted on
10/26/2006 9:47:21 AM PDT
by
blam
To: null and void
There were plenty of mammoths here, and no glaciers. Was Siberia glaciated?
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posted on
10/26/2006 9:49:57 AM PDT
by
RightWhale
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