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Posted on 04/22/2007 5:53:44 AM PDT by yankeedame
Interesting thought.
Eden In The East(Professor Stephen Oppenheimer)
Editorial Reviews
In an exhaustively researched and creatively argued reassessment of mankind's origins, British physician Oppenheimer, an expert in tropical pediatrics, contends that the now-submerged area of Southeast Asia was the cradle of ancient civilization.
From time to time, scholars from various disciplines have argued for the existence of a vastly old ``founder civilization.'' Among the most famous was Charles Hapgood, who based his theory of a lost seafaring civilization on his analysis of the famous 16th-century ``Piri Re'is'' maps of the Antarctic land mass.
In this tradition, Oppenheimer blends evidence from geology, genetics, linguistics, archaeology, and anthropology to argue persuasively that such a civilization existed on a submerged land mass in Southeast Asia, which geologists call the Sunda shelf. Pointing to geological evidence for the submersion of the shelf by abrupt rises in the sea level about 8,000 years ago, Oppenheimer contends that the coastal cultures of Southeast Asia were drowned by a great flood, reflected in flood mythologies scattered from the ancient Middle East (such as the biblical story of Noah) to Australia and the Americas.
According to the author, tantalizing archaeological evidence exists of settlements under a ``silt curtain'' left by the sea floods in drowned coastal regions from Southeast Asia to the Middle East, while linguistic markers indicate that languages spread from Southeast Asia to Australia and the Pacific.
The shared flood story is one striking example of similar Eurasian myths according to the author; the ancient Middle East and Asia share other myth typologies, conspicuously including creation and Cain and Abel myths, which point to common origins in a progenitor culture.
Absorbing, meticulously researched, limpidly written, and authoritative: should be regarded as a groundbreaking study of the remote past of Southeast Asia, and of civilization itself. -- Copyright ©1999, Kirkus Associates, LP. All rights reserved. --This text refers to an out of print or unavailable edition of this title.
Book Description A book that completetly changes the established and conventional view of prehistory by relocating the Lost Eden - the world's 1st civilisation - to SouthEast Asia. At the end of the Ice Age, SouthEast Asia formed a continent twice the size of India, which included Indochina, Malaysia, Indonesia and Borneo.
The South China Sea, the Gulf of Thailand and the Java sea, which were all dry, formed the connecting parts of the continent. Geologically, this half sunken continent is the Shunda shelf or Sundaland.
In the Eden in the East Stephen Oppenheimer puts forward the astonishing argument that here in southeast Asia - rather than in Mesopotamia where it is usually placed - was the lost civilisation that fertilised the Great cultures of the Middle East 6 thousand years ago. He produces evidence from ethnography, archaeology, oceanography, from creation stories, myths and sagas and from linguistics and DNA analysis, to argue that this founder civilisation was destroyed by a catastrophic flood, caused by a rapid rise in the sea level at the end of the last ice age.
Me too. I would choose South America 2nd today.
> Interesting thought.
About the kangaroos and the kiwis, animals only found on islands/continents in the South Pacific (which is a very very big place)...
I’m a Christian and I do believe in the Bible. A part of that requires me to believe in a universal flood that covers the entire world to a depth of some 29,000 feet (the height of Mt Everest) and it then requires me to believe that all the animals in the world were somehow on a big wooden boat.
I’ll swallow all of that on Faith. Dropping off the Kangaroos and Kiwis and tuataras in the South Pacific would have been a really big logistical exercise. Floating accidentally down to NZ and Australia would have taken a fair wee while. And dropping deadly poisonous snakes and spiders off only in OZ and not in NZ. And dropping off Weta bugs only in NZ and not in OZ. Then then finding its way under no power (presumably by prevailing currents?) back to Mt Ararat...?
It is at this point that Faith and Reason might part company. I happily exist in both worlds because I’ve decided it is perfectly OK to be a human contradiction, and that there is no requirement to be consistent or to have everything balance out and have debits equal credits.
Who says everything must make sense, everything must be explained? And who says that Reason is the best way to do that? I don’t.
Reason says there are no ghosts. I have seen a ghost. Nobody can persuade me otherwise. Reason does not support the paranormal: I believe in the Paranormal. And I believe in Reason.
The Indians believed in the Great Spirit: I have a Sioux Indian blood brother and I believe in the Great Spirit and have felt its presence in the wilds.
The Maori believe in similar paranormals, like Tu the Warrior Spirit. I have been in the bush in NZ and I feel that there is a Presence. And nothing will persuade me that Tu is not present when Maori Warriors are doing the Haka as if they mean it.
None of this has anything to do with Reason.
The Spiritual world has a very legitimate place in our lives. To some extent it can co-exist with the world of Science, Reason and Logic. Neither is more important than the other. Neither trumps the other. One day they may be co-explained and reconciled.
But I don’t need for that to happen to happily participate in both worlds.
As the antient Scottish doggerel goes:
“On Earth and Sky and Sea
Straynge Thynges There Be...”
Cheers
*DieHard*
I am also thinking Yucatan Peninsula and Cayman Island area.
Layers of mystery: Archaeologists look to the earth for Minoan fate
Worcester Telegram & Gazette | Sunday, October 28, 2007 | Judy Powell
Posted on 11/03/2007 11:04:25 PM PDT by SunkenCiv
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-chat/1920708/posts
“Even when, during the respective Thera Conferences, individual scientists had pointed out that the magnitude and significance of the Thera eruption must be estimated as less than previously thought, the conferences acted to strengthen the original hypothesis. The individual experts believed that the arguments advanced by their colleagues were sound, and that the facts of a natural catastrophe were not in doubt... All three factors reflect a fantasy world rather than cool detachment, which is why it so difficult to refute the theory with rational arguments.” — Eberhard Zangger, “The Future of the Past”, pp 49-50.
(this April topic appears to be the oldest FR thread regarding Sandi MacGillivray; thanks again for sending the Discovery story link, I’m nearly caught up with my back mail)
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I am a bit late to the thread, but if readers want to understand what happened to Atlantis (and the Earth), then check this out:
http://faculty.nps.edu/mjjaye/docs/SOI%20Supplemental%20Material%20Resolving%20the%20Problem%20of%20Atlantis%20Jaye.pdf
More soon - there’s a related presentation at the upcoming Geological Society of America in Vancouver.
Geologists made a big mistake about 200 years ago.... Fixing bad science is a hard thing to do, but new data certainly helps.
Heck of a coincidence, with the timing. I take that as a sign of an invisible hand.
Some religious people, on occasion, 'jump-me' about science articles that I post. I don't know of any that I've posted that does anything but add support to the Christian bible.
It’s not just here. I wrote that paper for a Theology Class my Freshman year of college. Got a D. “religious heresy”. Proudest D of my life <^..^>
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