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Fathers Of The Zodiac Tracked Down
Nature ^ | 6-1-2007 | Geoff Brumfiel

Posted on 06/04/2007 10:50:49 AM PDT by blam

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1 posted on 06/04/2007 10:50:54 AM PDT by blam
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To: SunkenCiv

GGG Ping.


2 posted on 06/04/2007 10:51:21 AM PDT by blam
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To: blam
Modern Day Equivalent


3 posted on 06/04/2007 10:55:09 AM PDT by sono (TITVS PVLLO in MMVIII - Paid for by the Aventine Collegium for Pullo)
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To: blam

rocks?.......Even a string and a stick would have been better......The ancient astrologers were not stupid. Their very lives depended on their measurements. If they screwed up their heads would be on the sticks........


4 posted on 06/04/2007 10:56:33 AM PDT by Red Badger (Bite your tongue. It tastes a lot better than crow................)
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To: blam

What’s amazing is that the ancient astronomers figured out the precession of the equinoxes caused by a wobble in Earth’s spin axis. A fixed viewpoint would follow a circle in the sky, with the 12 constellations of the Zodiac in that circle. The amazing part is the precession cycle is almost 26,000 years, but they figured it out with very short observation time. No civilization lasted anywhere near long enough to observe very much of the precession arc. I wonder if they had....help?


5 posted on 06/04/2007 11:55:46 AM PDT by Dumpster Baby ("Hope somebody finds me before the rats do .....")
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World's oldest telescope?
by Dr David Whitehouse
Thursday, July 1, 1999
According to Professor Giovanni Pettinato of the University of Rome, a rock crystal lens, currently on show in the British museum, could rewrite the history of science. He believes that it could explain why the ancient Assyrians knew so much about astronomy. It is a theory many scientists might be prepared to accept, but the idea that the rock crystal was part of a telescope is something else. To get from a lens to a telescope, they say, is an enormous leap. Professor Pettinato counters by asking for an explanation of how the ancient Assyrians regarded the planet Saturn as a god surrounded by a ring of serpents?

6 posted on 06/05/2007 10:00:44 AM PDT by SunkenCiv (A calendar's days are numbered. Profile updated May 31, 2007.)
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Thanks Blam.
 
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7 posted on 06/05/2007 10:01:43 AM PDT by SunkenCiv (The roundest knight at King Arthur's round table was Sir Cumference. Profile updated May 31, 2007.)
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Thanks Blam.

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8 posted on 06/05/2007 10:02:31 AM PDT by SunkenCiv (When I played baseball, I wondered why the ball was getting bigger. Then it hit me.)
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“Nevertheless, these measurements allowed him to pinpoint his own position and date more precisely than he could those of the Assyrian astronomers. He is not sure why his measurements worked better.”

I wonder if the figures he had in his tables had copyist-introduced errors, as is common in later manuscripts? How about continental drift for another, somewhat wilder, explanation?


9 posted on 06/05/2007 10:58:16 AM PDT by Old Student (We have a name for the people who think indiscriminate killing is fine. They're called "The Bad Guys)
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To: SunkenCiv

“World’s oldest telescope?”

Neat article. The ancients seemed to think that their times were degenerate, compared to earlier times. Our world seems to think we’re the Golden Age. I wonder, sometimes.


10 posted on 06/05/2007 11:01:49 AM PDT by Old Student (We have a name for the people who think indiscriminate killing is fine. They're called "The Bad Guys)
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To: SunkenCiv

I thought that was Jacques Costeau?

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11 posted on 06/05/2007 11:03:37 AM PDT by Lurker (Comparing moderate islam to extremist islam is like comparing small pox to plague.)
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To: RadioAstronomer
The results were presented at the American Astronomical Society's summer meeting in Honolulu, Hawaii.

Rough life, being an Astronomer.

Rades, do you have any comment?

12 posted on 06/05/2007 11:33:44 AM PDT by grey_whiskers (The opinions are solely those of the author and are subject to change without notice.)
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RA has opused out and gone to WideAwakes.net.


13 posted on 06/05/2007 11:40:55 AM PDT by Kevmo (Duncan Hunter just needs one Rudy G Campaign Video: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RVBtPIrEleM)
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To: blam

... and they discovered the Ouija board also dated to the same period.


14 posted on 06/05/2007 11:55:11 AM PDT by Sam Ketcham (Amnesty means vote dilution, & increased taxes to bring us down to the world poverty level.)
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To: Dumpster Baby
"No civilization lasted anywhere near long enough to observe very much of the precession arc."

Unless it were the Nefilim/Anunnaki, who would have reason to use the heavens as a time clock and calendar. Each sign of the Zodiac supposedly corresponded to the length of earth time marking the beginning and end of rulership of the Pantheon members. Also used to determine the location of the rogue planet (Nibiru, original home of the Nefilim) at any given time within its 3,600-year (shar) orbit around the sun. (Re: Sitchin)

I'm sure no man-made clocks/calendars would have lasted that long, except perhaps some of the ancient observatories/temples (including the pyramid) which were oriented (astro-archeologically) to point to zero degrees of the houses.

IIRC, Marduk (son of Enki), according to myth, got his panties all in a wad and started a war to usurp the throne early, claiming that he was allowed to use lunar time instead of solar time.

15 posted on 06/05/2007 12:48:31 PM PDT by Eastbound
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RA has opused out and gone to WideAwakes.net.

"Do you have a reputable link for that?" /sarc

16 posted on 06/05/2007 12:48:38 PM PDT by ApplegateRanch (Islam: a Satanically Transmitted Disease, spread by unprotected intimate contact with the Koranus.)
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To: Kevmo
When did that happen? I knew he was intimately concerned with the crevo mess last October (see also Darwin Central) but I had never heard of the Wide Awakes...

Cheers!

17 posted on 06/05/2007 12:58:09 PM PDT by grey_whiskers (The opinions are solely those of the author and are subject to change without notice.)
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To: Old Student
Our world seems to think we’re the Golden Age. I wonder, sometimes.

I assure you we are in a golden age.

Not the first, won't be the last (Well, maybe this one will, we do have the technological capability to clear the planet of all meaningful life).

I expect that as no more of this Great Society will survive the next Ice Age than survived the last one...

18 posted on 06/05/2007 1:16:27 PM PDT by null and void ("Wherever liberty has sprouted around the world, we find American blood at its roots.")
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To: Kevmo

Dang!


19 posted on 06/05/2007 1:22:25 PM PDT by null and void ("Wherever liberty has sprouted around the world, we find American blood at its roots.")
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To: grey_whiskers; ApplegateRanch; null and void

I’m not sure, but it seems to have happened during the bugzapper thread. They were discussing it over here...

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-backroom/1840286/posts?page=1072#1072


20 posted on 06/05/2007 1:52:06 PM PDT by Kevmo (Duncan Hunter just needs one Rudy G Campaign Video: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RVBtPIrEleM)
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