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Ancient iceman probably has no modern relatives
Yahoo News ^
| October, 30, 2008
| Reporting by Michael Kahn
Posted on 10/30/2008 2:49:25 PM PDT by MissCalico
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"We'll only know for sure by sampling intensively in the Alpine Valleys where Otzi was born." Well let's hurry up already . . . it's only been 17 years.
To: MissCalico
"We'll only know for sure by sampling intensively in the Alpine Valleys where Otzi was born." Which is still more than we know about Obie.
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posted on
10/30/2008 2:51:35 PM PDT
by
gov_bean_ counter
( Sarah Palin is America's Margaret Thatcher; Obama is America's George Galloway.)
To: MissCalico
“Grant Money”...The gift that keeps giving!!
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posted on
10/30/2008 2:54:12 PM PDT
by
Sacajaweau
(I'm planting corn...Have to feed my car...)
To: MissCalico
Just an hunch, but I’m thinking that being stupid enough to wander off into the Alps with little clothing would be a negative factor in leaving offspring.
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posted on
10/30/2008 2:57:11 PM PDT
by
MeanWestTexan
(A Jew voting for Obama is like a chicken voting for Col. Sanders.)
To: MissCalico
You mean the great George Gervin didn't have any kids?
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posted on
10/30/2008 2:58:21 PM PDT
by
dfwgator
(I hate Illinois Marxists)
To: MeanWestTexan
>Just an hunch, but Im thinking that being stupid enough to wander off into the Alps with little clothing would be a negative factor in leaving offspring.
True. But he could have been waylaid as he was traveling, as the article says they did find an arrowhead in his shoulder.
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posted on
10/30/2008 3:02:21 PM PDT
by
OneWingedShark
(Q: Why am I here? A: To do Justly, to love mercy, and to walk humbly with my God.)
To: Sacajaweau
Grant Money...The gift that keeps giving!! Well, at least it isn't money from U$A taxpayers. ;)
To: MissCalico
""Otzi," Italy's prehistoric iceman, probably does not have any modern day descendants"
To: MissCalico
If only he had made it to the party that night...who knows what might have happened?
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posted on
10/30/2008 3:21:08 PM PDT
by
silverleaf
(Fasten your seat belts- it's going to be a BUMPY ride.)
To: MeanWestTexan
Since he was in his 40's It's likely he procreated before he died. He also probably had siblings and cousins and even possibly parents, aunts, uncles and maybe even grandchildren and grandparents, some of who shared his Maternal DNA. That one line of DNA either died out sometime over the last several thousand years or there are surviving isolated pockets somewhere.
I don't know why they haven't already checked the DNA of the local surrounding valleys. It would be so interesting to me if they found one of his descendants.
To: MissCalico
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posted on
10/30/2008 3:24:26 PM PDT
by
tophat9000
( We...... Obama's Thugocracys to Noteare all "joe the"... plumber)
To: MissCalico
Ancient iceman probably has no modern relativesMaybe they just didn't want a 5,300 year old corpse showing up for the holidays and drinking all their liquor.
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posted on
10/30/2008 3:32:27 PM PDT
by
x
To: MissCalico
Men don’t pass on their mitochondrial DNA, so the rarity or otherwise of the iceman’s mitochondrial DNA has no bearing on the question of his possible descendants.
The “line” that is averred to be extinct includes his mother’s mother’s mother’s ... mother’s mother ) whoever is considered to be the “head of the line”, ) her daughters, daughters’ daughters , daughters’ daughters’ daughters, and so on to the present, and only the living sons of any of these “nth daughters.”
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posted on
10/30/2008 3:34:03 PM PDT
by
dr_lew
To: MissCalico
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posted on
10/30/2008 3:36:19 PM PDT
by
Revolting cat!
(Everytime they open their mouth they shoot themselves in the foot.)
To: Revolting cat!
Jerry Butler is a great singer and an incredibly nice man.
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posted on
10/30/2008 3:39:03 PM PDT
by
Chunga
(Vote Republican)
To: Chunga
I used to work, way back, for a non-profit that he was on the board of. Whenever he’d call, I’d put him on hold, then tell my boss, “Iceman on line 4.”
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posted on
10/30/2008 3:43:57 PM PDT
by
Bubba Ho-Tep
("More weight!"--Giles Corey)
To: dr_lew
Darn...I knew that but didn't think it through B4 I posted about his kids.
In those days, in those isolated, sparsely populated areas, his kids might have shared his maternal DNA anyway. (which is all beside the point)
To: MissCalico
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posted on
10/30/2008 4:03:51 PM PDT
by
WHBates
To: MissCalico
Ancient DNAIce Man - Otzi of Italy
Widely known as "Otzi (Oetzi)" the Iceman found in 1991 in the Italian Alps, is also known as "Similaun Man". Of the Neolithic era, Otzi lived between 3350-3300 B.C. in the "Copper Age". He was believed to be 46-years old when he died at the top of a mountain pass from wounds received.
Name - Iceman
Haplo - K
Haplotype - 16224C, 16311C
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posted on
10/30/2008 4:17:56 PM PDT
by
blam
To: blam
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10/30/2008 4:21:06 PM PDT
by
blam
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