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Texas A&M researcher shows possible link between 1918 El Niño and flu pandemic
Texas A&M University ^ | Sep 14, 2009 | Unknown

Posted on 09/14/2009 2:12:30 PM PDT by decimon

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Some good news on the AGW front. And then there's that bad news.
1 posted on 09/14/2009 2:12:32 PM PDT by decimon
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El crap ping.


2 posted on 09/14/2009 2:13:37 PM PDT by decimon
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To: decimon

I get it. If one thing happens after another then the first must have caused the second! This means that my Dad’s getting discharged from the National Guard on Dec 6, 1941 caused the Pearl Harbor attack.

I could be a professor! Get me grant money now!


3 posted on 09/14/2009 2:16:02 PM PDT by Seruzawa (If you agree with the French raise your hand - If you are French raise both hands.)
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I give this guy credit for trying to look a little deeper into causation, rather than just saying GLOBAL WARMING or BUSH’s FAULT


4 posted on 09/14/2009 2:17:47 PM PDT by Retired Greyhound
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Thanx !

 




Beam me to Planet Gore !

5 posted on 09/14/2009 2:19:56 PM PDT by steelyourfaith ("Power is not alluring to pure minds." - Thomas Jefferson)
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...or BUSH’s FAULT

Samuel P. Bush. He became an adviser to Herbert hoover after causing the 1918 flu.

6 posted on 09/14/2009 2:23:51 PM PDT by decimon
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To: decimon

Shades of Tim McCarver and Ralph Kiner’s long running joke during Met telecasts about El Niño being the cause of everything that goes wrong.


7 posted on 09/14/2009 2:25:56 PM PDT by Dahoser (The missus and I joined the NRA. Who says Obama can't inspire conservatives?)
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The flu epidemic of 1918, commonly called the "Spanish Flu," is believed to be the greatest medical holocaust in history.

Some more idiocy. 25M to 100M dead, out of a world population of 1800M. Or 1.4% to 5.6%. In the US, where the disease probably originated, the rate was 0.6%.

The Black Death of the Middle Ages killed probably 20% to 30% of the population of Eurasia.

Previous epidemics in the time of Pericles and Justinian (and many others) had similar death rates.

During the 16th century the native population of the Americas was reduced by somewhere between 80% and 95%, almost entirely due to epidemics caused by the merging of the Afro-Eurasian and American disease ecosystems.

The 1918 flu, for all the suffering it caused, doesn't even bear comparison to such incredible catastrophes.

8 posted on 09/14/2009 2:28:26 PM PDT by Sherman Logan ("The price of freedom is the toleration of imperfections." Thomas Sowell)
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Aggie scientists at work!

9 posted on 09/14/2009 2:36:27 PM PDT by Snickering Hound
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I think the horrid conditions of World War I had more to do with the spread of the Spanish Flu than El Nino.


10 posted on 09/14/2009 2:41:26 PM PDT by Virginia Ridgerunner (Sarah Palin has crossed the Rubicon!)
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I think the horrid conditions of World War I had more to do with the spread of the Spanish Flu than El Nino.

No horrid war conditions in the U.S. It seems to be true that the flu started in the the U.S. and spread to Europe through our soldiers. And apparently spread elsewhere from Europe.

They're saying it hit India hard and probably due to their drought. Maybe more so due to their population density.

Still lots of speculation here.

11 posted on 09/14/2009 2:57:22 PM PDT by decimon
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I nearly did the same back in the Army but with a dump truck and a water trailer. Does that qualify me to teach at Texas A&M?


12 posted on 09/14/2009 3:00:12 PM PDT by decimon
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Actually, they’ve traced the beginnings of the flu to Alaska and the garrisoned U.S. troops there, who were subsequently transported across North America and to Europe, where they spread it throughout the former war zone.


13 posted on 09/14/2009 3:03:21 PM PDT by Virginia Ridgerunner (Sarah Palin has crossed the Rubicon!)
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Actually, they’ve traced the beginnings of the flu to Alaska...

I thought it was the Midwest pig country. Iowa, maybe.

14 posted on 09/14/2009 3:09:19 PM PDT by decimon
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15 posted on 09/14/2009 6:09:05 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/__Since Jan 3, 2004__Profile updated Monday, January 12, 2009)
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16 posted on 09/14/2009 6:09:38 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/__Since Jan 3, 2004__Profile updated Monday, January 12, 2009)
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There you go, bringing up inconvenient facts.


17 posted on 09/14/2009 6:35:37 PM PDT by Pelham (Obammunism, for that smooth-talking happy -face communist blend.)
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Interesting theory, but our guys seem to have debunked it. I love this place.


18 posted on 09/14/2009 6:39:31 PM PDT by TheOldLady
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The presently most accepted theory is that the flu started in Haskell County, western KS, and went with a draftee to Ft. Riley in N. Kansas. From there it spread in all directions as soldiers were shipped out. Travel on super-crowded trains and troopships created conditions for transmission about as effective as modern airliners.


19 posted on 09/14/2009 7:02:06 PM PDT by Sherman Logan ("The price of freedom is the toleration of imperfections." Thomas Sowell)
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Another beautiful piece of rhetoric, murdered by a brutal gang of facts.


20 posted on 09/14/2009 7:15:42 PM PDT by Sherman Logan ("The price of freedom is the toleration of imperfections." Thomas Sowell)
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