Secret history of North America: Author to speak about Kensington Runestone, Vikings and Templars

Winona Daily News ^ | November 30, 2009 | DARRELL EHRLICK

[urtax$@work]

what about the Heavner runestones in Ok. ?

[Just mythoughts]

Someone marked this rock a long time ago.

http://www.heavener.k12.ok.us/community/runestone/rune.htm

[Just mythoughts]

lol I missed your post before I posted mine....

[21twelve]

Thanks for the info. I see that exhibit was back in 2000 or so. Interesting stuff. I was interested in it as a kid growing up in Minnesota. On the lookout for stones on my tromps through the woods!

Just found some site about rune stones - some found in Oklahoma that some think date back to 1100 AD. Interesting stuff. Here is from one site regarding the Kennsington stone. Along with the experts dating it and the incription - seems pretty obvious to me:

“...It is known King Magnus of Sweden sent that a party to Greenland in 1355. They never returned. It is very possible that these men [Kennsington Runestone guys] were from that party. The stone bears the date of 1362. The transliteration of the text is generally accepted as:

“Eight Goths and 22 Norwegians on a journey of exploration from Vinland very far west. We had camp by 2 rocky islands one day’s journey north from this stone. We were out fishing one day. After we came home we found 10 men red with blood and dead. AVM [Ave Maria] save us from evil.”
The inscription along the edge of the stone says:

“Have 10 men by the sea to look after our ships 14 days’ journey from this island. Year 1362.”

[afraidfortherepublic]

Wolter said the backlash from the historical and archaeological communities comes from challenging a long-established paradigm.

Sort of like Climategate.

[IronKros]

Just a fun post.
There is a Norwegian/German band called Leaves' Eyes which focuses on Nordic themes. I have their album Vinland Saga.

Here is a good video of theirs called Elegy.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UNgOJDL9iyQ&feature=youtube_gdata

[Forward the Light Brigade]

Lots of People visited The Americas, China, Japan etc—but, like the Vikings they did little to the place. The Spanish came and brought religion and western culture to the Americas. What ever you say, Roman Catholic Church was a whole lot better that the rip out the hearts cults of the Maya and Aztec. Christobal Colombo did a great service to the peoples of the New World and the cultures of the whole world. Ask yourself this question. What would the Americas have been like is the Moors had discovered the place?

[wolfcreek]

Better yet, what if NO ONE had discovered/conquered the New World?

As you might be able to tell, not fond of Europeans. (and I'm Irish/Scottish/Welsh with a bit of German)

[colorado tanker]

I'd have to say the evidence of Templar presence is pretty thin, perhaps interesting is the right word.

It's not at all hard to imagine if the Vikings found Newfoundland they'd find the St. Lawrence. Following that system would get you into the heart of the Midwest.

This guy is finding out how hard it is to change minds once scientists get that consensus thingy working.

[CholeraJoe]

Yes. The hooked X was the best evidence presented for Templar involvement. Supposedly they buried the Holy Grail or some other treasure on Oak Island, where it remains to this day guarded by the sea.

[americanophile]

...Oklahoma! wow.

[Just mythoughts]

Here is a link with pictures.

http://www.heavener.k12.ok.us/community/runestone/rune.htm

[rdl6989]

What would the Americas have been like if the Moors had discovered the place?

Very good point, and scary too!

[SunkenCiv]

It was interesting that it got integrated into the plot of “National Treasure”, but basically, the Templar navigators’ case is so thin the paper only has one side. :’)

[colorado tanker]

To be honest, I've never heard of the Templars as seafarers of any renown.

I think this guy hurts his argument by including that.

[Forward the Light Brigade]

People would still be cutting hearts out of people living a backward life style in the America’s. The Europeans brought civilization to plant earth. It wasn’t perfect but it was an improvement. What to read some sad history? Read how the Chinese treated minorities.

[SunkenCiv]

The only thing not attributed to the Templars by their fans *may* be the invention of ziplock sandwich bags. Which are, BTW, pretty cool. Great for storing various artifacts before burying them in an unmarked pit on Oak Island, if you must know... ;’)

[SunkenCiv]

Check out Hjalmar Holand’s book on the Runestone, there’s other stuff discussed in it as well. I’d try more detail off the top of my head, but it’s been 25 years since I read it.

[wolfcreek]

“Europeans brought civilization to plant earth”

They’re in the process of reverting to a less civilized mode as we type.

AAMOF, so are we.

[SunkenCiv]

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