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Arctic Could Face Warmer and Ice-Free Conditions (Pliocene projections - USGS)
U.S. Geological Survey ^ | Dec 29, 2009 | Unknown

Posted on 12/29/2009 8:37:20 AM PST by decimon

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To: rightwingcrazy
‘“Arctic Could Face Warmer and Ice-Free Conditions”

Or, it could get colder. Or stay the same.

Where’s my government grant?’

You may have struck upon something there. How hard could it be to get a government grant? They give grants for the dumbest things. I bet I could devise a plan to ‘study’ the effects of climate change on the nocturnal emissions of salamanders and if the paperwork and forms where filled out correctly, I would get a million dollars of your money to churn out a report that was completely phony. Since no one will actually read the report, it really wouldn't matter.

I could then get on TV regularly to pontificate how the increased/decreased nocturnal salamander emissions are the warning sign to the destruction of the entire ecosystem and without the purchase of salamander emissions credits, the entire Earth and all of the people on it would DIE.

It is lucky for every one that I happen to have an unlimited supply of Salamander Emission Credits I would be happy to sell you for the right price.

21 posted on 12/29/2009 8:52:49 AM PST by Jim from C-Town (The government is rarely benevolent, often malevolent and never benign!)
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To: Admin Moderator

“And how did those conditions in the Pliocene occurr?” Of course they were caused by all the cars, factories, lawnmowers, charbroling, etc that went on back in those days.


22 posted on 12/29/2009 8:52:50 AM PST by liberalcide1
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Those bastard Flinstones and their 3,500,000 BC Escalades!


23 posted on 12/29/2009 8:53:10 AM PST by AbeKrieger (Islam is a trojan horse designed to infiltrate and bring down Western civilization.)
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To: reg45

>> And how did those conditions in the Pliocene occur?

“Lucy” and “Ardi” racing SUVs .... <<

Not it was the Neanderthals racing SUVs because only Neanderthals drive SUVs, come on get the story right!


24 posted on 12/29/2009 8:53:41 AM PST by GraceG
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To: decimon

COOL! We can start cultivating Greenland!


25 posted on 12/29/2009 8:53:53 AM PST by Little Ray (Madame President sounds really good to me...)
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To: rightwingcrazy
“Arctic Could Face Warmer and Ice-Free Conditions” Or, it could get colder. Or stay the same.

If you narrowed it down, you would be guessing...

26 posted on 12/29/2009 8:54:31 AM PST by Dixie Yooper (Ephesians 6:11)
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To: decimon

Meteorologists have difficulty predicting the weather five days from now and yet these people expect us to believe they can forecast the weather years from now!


27 posted on 12/29/2009 8:54:36 AM PST by Man50D (Fair Tax, you earn it, you keep it! www.FairTaxNation.com)
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To: decimon

These articles always have qualifying words in the headline: “could”, “may”, “might”, “there’s a chance...”. It’s all BS.


28 posted on 12/29/2009 8:56:40 AM PST by Signalman
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To: CedarDave

I did see that on F&F and was cheered by that young lady’s courage to take truth to power.


29 posted on 12/29/2009 8:57:53 AM PST by steelyourfaith (Freedom from fat cat greedy Big Government tyranny IS a Right ... It IS the Constitution.)
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To: decimon
Arctic Could Face Warmer and Ice-Free Conditions (Pliocene projections - USGS)

And my Aunt could grow testicles and be my Uncle.
There's about as much chance of one as the other.

30 posted on 12/29/2009 8:58:28 AM PST by Just another Joe (Warning: FReeping can be addictive and helpful to your mental health)
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The left claims we have lost 40% of arctic sea ice.

31 posted on 12/29/2009 9:06:00 AM PST by icwhatudo ("laws requiring compulsory abortion could be sustained under the existing Constitution"Obama Adviser)
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To: decimon
There is increased evidence that the Arctic could face seasonally ice-free conditions and much warmer temperatures in the future.

Let's count what I call "Weasel Words". Weasel Words are modifiers that give the writer cover when after a few years it becomes clear that he/she was DEAD WRONG. Here they are:

INCREASED. From what???? How about from zero up to 2%. That's a big jump.

COULD. Wow that's definitive isn't. How about COULDN'T. Just as likely.

MUCH WARMER. OK, I get it. They must mean 20 degrees C. Or do they mean 100 degrees C. Or do they mean .5 degrees C?

IN THE FUTURE. That really nails it down doesn't it? Maybe we are talking a few million years. Or a billion or two. Who knows? Who cares?

32 posted on 12/29/2009 9:08:58 AM PST by InterceptPoint
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Those bastard Flinstones and their 3,500,000 BC Escalades!

This predates CAFE standards by 3,501,975 years, which must be the problem.

33 posted on 12/29/2009 9:11:55 AM PST by DrDavid (George Orwell was an optimist.)
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To: decimon

[[Global average surface temperatures during the mid-Pliocene were about 3°C (5.5°F) greater than today and within the range projected for the 21st century by the Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change.]]

These friggin criminal morons can’t even keep their stories straight- First they claim we’re ‘hotter than evah before’, and that ‘man must act now to reverse the damage we’ve done’, but hten we get articles liek htis one that show that DESPITE the claim that we’re now ‘hotter than evah’, it was infact 5 freakin degrees hotter BEFORE the industrial age-

So, apparently, We’re not putting enough CO2 into the atmosphere because we’re STILL 5 freakin degrees cooler than it was before (and lo and behold- DESPITE the FACT that it was 5 freakin degrees hotter BEFORE the industrial age, the world survived just fine, species thrived, survived, and moved into new nitches, and the world and everythign in it went along just fine- but apaprently, because we’re a tenth of a degree warmer than we were in the 40’s, everyhtign is goign to die and hte world will burn to a crisp? These freakin ‘scientists’ haven’t got a freakin clue, and hsoudl be stripped of their degrees for criminal fraud after tryi9gn to defraud the world!)


34 posted on 12/29/2009 9:47:45 AM PST by CottShop (Scientific belief does not constitute scientific evidence, nor does it convey scientific knowledge)
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[[She complained to the school board and F&F also wrote a letter and got a response that “they would look into it.”]]

She shoudl write another letter stating “Yiou’d better ‘look into it’ pretty darn quick because I’m bringing a massive lawsuit agaisnt this school for violating the school clause and agreement for teachers to remain unbiased and present neutral material, and this lawsuit will begin imediately if you fail to act SOON!”

The girl has a case because the school has a policy to present BOTH sides of issues, and requires it’s teachers to remain neutral on issues when teaching- they have failed to honor their policies, and failed the students by teachign htem garbage that is a proven fraud


35 posted on 12/29/2009 9:53:34 AM PST by CottShop (Scientific belief does not constitute scientific evidence, nor does it convey scientific knowledge)
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To: CottShop

Theres no way they can even predict such major climate or geological “changes” within a few hundred years, let alone 5,10 or 20 years from now.


36 posted on 12/29/2009 9:55:01 AM PST by MiltonFriedmanFan
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To: decimon

Good that will open more oil wells.

Happy New Year Patriots


37 posted on 12/29/2009 9:55:43 AM PST by bray (What ya in for Son? No Health Insurance. Me too.)
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To: icwhatudo

where did you get that picture? Got any pictures comparing summer sea ice?


38 posted on 12/29/2009 9:58:29 AM PST by CottShop (Scientific belief does not constitute scientific evidence, nor does it convey scientific knowledge)
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To: decimon

Gonna need a rewrite of Born FRee. ;-)

Ice FRee

far as the eye sees

hmm hmm hmm hhmm


39 posted on 12/29/2009 10:01:02 AM PST by NormsRevenge (Semper Fi ... Godspeed .. Monthly Donor Onboard .. May yur bandwidth exceed your girth)
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[[Theres no way they can even predict such major climate or geological “changes” within a few hundred years, let alone 5,10 or 20 years from now.]]

you are correct, and it’s high time we stopped calling these inept physics ‘scientists’ and start callign htem what they are- criminal fraud artists- they shoudl be sittign in booths at state fairs reading palms, bot ‘predicting’ climate changes- yet because they wear the title ‘scientist’ the world is suppsoed to ooooh and aaaah and beleive every word they say? When the FACTS show that what they say are so far off base and incorrect time and time again? I don’t htink so- these peopel are NOT scientists- they are charlatan ‘psychics’ making ‘predictions’ dressed up in lab coats, and WASTING billions of taxpayers dollars!!!


40 posted on 12/29/2009 10:09:07 AM PST by CottShop (Scientific belief does not constitute scientific evidence, nor does it convey scientific knowledge)
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