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Is Betelgeuse about to blow? (going supernova in weeks or just another breathless rumor?)
DiscoverMagazine ^ | 6/01/10 | Phil Plait

Posted on 06/01/2010 6:09:32 PM PDT by LibWhacker

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To: LibWhacker
An anonymous poster there says he has heard that the star Betelgeuse is about to go supernova, maybe as soon as a few weeks:

Betelgeuse is about 640 light years away (give or take 140 light years) -- so, if it blows up next week, you won't know it for another 640 years ... LOL ...

41 posted on 06/01/2010 6:54:35 PM PDT by Star Traveler (Remember to keep the Messiah of Israel in the One-World Government that we look forward to coming)
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Phil Plait: This is a huge star, and when it goes, it will be at least as bright as that 1054 supernova...except that this one is 520 light years away, not 6,300 [...] When it collapses, it will be at least as bright as the full moon, and maybe as bright as the sun. For six weeks. So the really lucky folks (for whom Betelgeuse is only visible at night) will get 24 hour days, everybody else will get at least some time with two suns in the sky... Probably, all we'll get is visible light (not gamma rays or X-rays), so it shouldn't be an ELE [Extinction Level Event]... this is weeks/months away... Betelgeuse is one of the brightest stars in the sky... something like 100,000 times that of the Sun... roughly 600 light years away... a mass of something like 20 times the Sun's... Betelgeuse might go up tonight, or it might not be for 100,000 years. We're just not sure... a lot of stuff can happen on the surface of the star that has nothing to do with the core... what's happening on the surface is not an indication of any impending explosion... A supernova has to be no farther than about 25 light years away to be able to fry us with light or anything else, and Betelgeuse is 25 times that distance (which means it's power to hurt us is weakened by over 600x). It's the wrong kind of star to explode as a gamma-ray burst, so I'm not worried about that either... it'll get bright, about as bright as the full Moon. That's pretty bright! It'll hurt your eyes to look at it, but that's about it.
 
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42 posted on 06/01/2010 7:12:08 PM PDT by SunkenCiv ("Fools learn from experience. I prefer to learn from the experience of others." -- Otto von Bismarck)
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The Cycle of Cosmic Catastrophes: Flood, Fire, and Famine in the History of Civilization The Cycle of Cosmic Catastrophes:
Flood, Fire, and Famine
in the History of Civilization

by Richard Firestone,
Allen West, and
Simon Warwick-Smith


43 posted on 06/01/2010 7:12:48 PM PDT by SunkenCiv ("Fools learn from experience. I prefer to learn from the experience of others." -- Otto von Bismarck)
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44 posted on 06/01/2010 7:13:22 PM PDT by SunkenCiv ("Fools learn from experience. I prefer to learn from the experience of others." -- Otto von Bismarck)
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45 posted on 06/01/2010 7:14:08 PM PDT by SunkenCiv ("Fools learn from experience. I prefer to learn from the experience of others." -- Otto von Bismarck)
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To: LibWhacker

Well in reality, it would have exploded millions of years ago, and we’re just getting a glimpse now of what happened long ago.

Funny, that light.


46 posted on 06/01/2010 7:20:46 PM PDT by wastedyears (The Founders revolted for less.)
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To: LibWhacker
Perhaps they are seeing an increasing iron line in the spectrometry. That is a dead give away that a star won't be around long.

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47 posted on 06/01/2010 7:21:20 PM PDT by LonePalm (Commander and Chef)
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To: LibWhacker

More importantly...has Obama been briefed about it, and does he have his teleprompter ready?


48 posted on 06/01/2010 7:25:45 PM PDT by dr_who
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Relevance to the Mayan calendar came to my mind too while reading the story.

Alignment of sun, planet earth and a black hole

49 posted on 06/01/2010 7:29:37 PM PDT by FARS (Be well, be happy and THRIVE!)
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To: LibWhacker
I had an astronomy professor, Robert Kirshner, when I was at U of M whose specialty was supernovae. I remember him saying joyfully that we were "due" for one based on the odds of how frequently they appear. He was a great lecturer, by the way.
50 posted on 06/01/2010 7:31:28 PM PDT by stayathomemom (Beware of cat attacks while typing!)
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To: Hoodat

Beyond Antares

The skies are green and glowing
Where my heart is
Where my heart is
Where....the scented lunar flower is blooming
Somewhere, beyond the stars
Beyond Antares

I’ll be back though it takes forever
Forever is just a day.
Forever is just another journey
Tomorrow a stop along the way

And let the years go fading
Where my heart is
Where my heart is
Where my love eternally is waiting
Somewhere, beyond the stars
Beyond Antares


51 posted on 06/01/2010 7:37:06 PM PDT by xp38
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To: Star Traveler
Betelgeuse is about 640 light years away (give or take 140 light years) -- so, if it blows up next week, you won't know it for another 640 years ... LOL ...

I'm sure he meant 639 years and 51 weeks ago plus another week. Oh yeah...

LoL!

52 posted on 06/01/2010 7:37:24 PM PDT by Red Steel
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To: EGPWS

What? Kepler’s star? Interesting story there.

We’ll be extremely lucky to be around for one in this galaxy.


53 posted on 06/01/2010 7:38:18 PM PDT by BenKenobi (I want to hear more about Sam! Samwise the stouthearted!)
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To: Hoodat

Somehow I knew the Beetlejuice jokes were coming. :D


54 posted on 06/01/2010 7:40:17 PM PDT by rdl6989 (January 20, 2013- The end of an error.)
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To: vigilo
Yeah, I read that also. Who wrote this article, Lisa Douglas?

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55 posted on 06/01/2010 7:44:35 PM PDT by Richard Kimball (We're all criminals. They just haven't figured out what some of us have done yet.)
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To: FARS

Truthfully, the “end” of the Mayan calendar is no end at all. It is simply the end of their calendar counting cycle.


56 posted on 06/01/2010 7:44:43 PM PDT by Blood of Tyrants (The US will not die with a whimper. It will die with thundering applause from the left.)
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To: tlb

Do you have a link to that excerpt you posted? Looks like it might be from Wiki.


57 posted on 06/01/2010 7:49:10 PM PDT by ETL (ALL (most?) of the Obama-commie connections at my FR Home page: http://www.freerepublic.com/~etl/)
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To: LibWhacker
So the really lucky folks (for whom Betelgeuse is only visible at night) will get 24 hour days

Anybody know what part of the earth will get 24 hours of daylight?

58 posted on 06/01/2010 7:50:31 PM PDT by Natural Born 54 (FUBO x 10)
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To: tlb

With that size and being 20 solar masses, it looks like maybe Betelgeuse is at the end of its helium burning phase. Typically a main sequence star of 8 solar masses will end of life blow off enough mass so that it would be under the Chadrasekhar limit of 1.4 solar masses, so it will end its life as a white dwarf. Above the limit, the gravitaional collapse exceeds the electron degeneracy pressure, thus a neutron star or even black hole is formed, depending on the mass of the remnant. Now the question is will the star undergo further fusion reactions, such as carbon-oxygen? Such reactions are very short lived, and result in further explosions. These explosions distribute a lot of heavy elements (in cosmology BTW, anything helium and above is considered to be a “metal”).


59 posted on 06/01/2010 7:53:54 PM PDT by Fred Hayek (FUBO! I salute you with the soles of my shoes!)
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To: mnehring

What ever observations are being taken now, any light that is seen now from it took 500 years to get here.


60 posted on 06/01/2010 7:56:25 PM PDT by American Constitutionalist (There is no civility in the way the Communist/Marxist want to destroy the USA)
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