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Prehistoric Europeans Hunted, Ate Lion? Knife-scarred bones suggest early humans took on big cat
National Geographic News ^ | June 14, 2010 | Brian Handwerk

Posted on 06/18/2010 7:27:41 PM PDT by SunkenCiv

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To: wendy1946

There’s not much reason to suspect that older male cave lions didn’t wind up maneaters, as happens with older African lions today — in which case there’d have been a strong incentive to get rid of it, and as long as it was dead, fire up the barby.

On FB, when I posted it today, I suggested that it’s probably worthwhile to look for chunks of dead guys in cave lion coprolytes.


21 posted on 06/18/2010 8:10:01 PM PDT by SunkenCiv ("Fools learn from experience. I prefer to learn from the experience of others." -- Otto von Bismarck)
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To: sinanju

How many lions are found (outside of zoos) in Europe today? There’s not even much from Greek and Roman times about these critters, although they are known to have been hunted by the Assyrian kings (they went missing in the 7th c, a little misunderstanding with the Babylonians, Medes, and Scythians) in the Near East. The paleolithic people of Europe were ganging up on their prey, including mammoth, for a long while. Getting rid of lions would have the added bonus of the safety of the group.


22 posted on 06/18/2010 8:14:27 PM PDT by SunkenCiv ("Fools learn from experience. I prefer to learn from the experience of others." -- Otto von Bismarck)
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To: Sawdring

They were a social bunch.

http://www.ewtn.com/library/humanity/evolutn.txt

[snip] Numerous fossils came from carefully prepared graves, some as old as 100,000 years. In several instances, the deceased had been old and crippled (like Boule’s specimen) and had received care for years before being laid to rest. In one grave, a youth had been buried carefully on his side, with one arm tucked under his head, as if he were sleeping; in one hand, he held a beautifully carved quartz knife. In another grave, archaeologists found the body of an elderly Neanderthal who had had his forearm amputated years before in his youth. (Surgery 60,000 years ago!) He had been cared for all his life. And in yet another Neanderthal site, researchers found evidence that the deceased had been buried with flowers. [James B. Stenson, Headmaster of Northridge Preparatory School in Des Plaines, Illinois]


23 posted on 06/18/2010 8:24:39 PM PDT by SunkenCiv ("Fools learn from experience. I prefer to learn from the experience of others." -- Otto von Bismarck)
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To: dr_who

Ironically, killing and eating a lion is a sign of not being pussies. ;’)

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Neanderthal#Pathology

[snip] Neanderthals seemed to suffer a high frequency of fractures, especially common on the ribs (Shanidar IV, La Chapelle-aux-Saints 1 ‘Old Man’), the femur (La Ferrassie 1), fibulae (La Ferrassie 2 and Tabun 1), spine (Kebara 2) and skull (Shanidar I, Krapina, Sala 1). These fractures are often healed and show little or no sign of infection, suggesting that injured individuals were cared for during times of incapacitation. It has been remarked that Neanderthals showed a frequency of such injuries comparable to that of modern rodeo professionals, showing frequent contact with large, combative mammals. The pattern of fractures, along with the absence of throwing weapons, suggests that they may have hunted by leaping onto their prey and stabbing or even wrestling it to the ground.


24 posted on 06/18/2010 8:26:58 PM PDT by SunkenCiv ("Fools learn from experience. I prefer to learn from the experience of others." -- Otto von Bismarck)
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To: USNBandit

:’)


25 posted on 06/18/2010 8:29:46 PM PDT by SunkenCiv ("Fools learn from experience. I prefer to learn from the experience of others." -- Otto von Bismarck)
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To: SunkenCiv

People are people and the mind itself probably hasn’t changed too terribly much. I’d think that they could’ve used terrain, coordination, confusion, and maybe fire to corner and kill damned near anything. If food is the biggest problem to solve and mammals live nearby, that problem can be solved.


26 posted on 06/18/2010 8:29:59 PM PDT by Sax
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To: sinanju

“that the big cats are practically inedible”

I dont know - did they have Chinese restaurants back then..?


27 posted on 06/18/2010 8:45:57 PM PDT by njslim
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To: njslim

If they did, must have been one hell of a huge wok.


28 posted on 06/18/2010 8:54:39 PM PDT by PzLdr ("The Emperor is not as forgiving as I am" - Darth Vader)
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To: Sax
People are people and the mind itself probably hasn’t changed too terribly much. I’d think that they could’ve used terrain, coordination, confusion, and maybe fire to corner and kill damned near anything. If food is the biggest problem to solve and mammals live nearby, that problem can be solved.

Yep. The conservatives would have organized a group, formulated a plan, utilized a chain of command and each person would have been responsible for his role in the attack on the lion.

The liberals would have tried to appease the lion by offering it, oh, probably a helpless child.

29 posted on 06/18/2010 9:25:32 PM PDT by SirJohnBarleycorn
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To: SirJohnBarleycorn

liberals are a side effect of a prosperous society.

Consider their existance a ‘luxury’ of making it beyond the daily scrap for food, clothing and shelter. They have no place in the natural world - they only exist when they’re not directly faced with it.


30 posted on 06/18/2010 9:40:35 PM PDT by Sax
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To: SunkenCiv

.....the tasty viscera would have been long gone......

What a sentence to wake up to. Some hoe an omelet just isn’t going to do the job when I could have had tasty viscera


31 posted on 06/19/2010 4:31:27 AM PDT by bert (K.E. N.P. +12 Republicans punish truth while the 'Rats reward liars)
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To: Sax

I wholeheartedly agree. John Anthony West, the water-erosion-Sphinx guy, joked that there’s “a spinoff of Darwinian theory, that there’s a progress from stupid cave men to smart old us with our hydrogen bombs and striped toothpaste.” Too bad JAW went around the bend during the WoT.


32 posted on 06/19/2010 6:29:12 AM PDT by SunkenCiv ("Fools learn from experience. I prefer to learn from the experience of others." -- Otto von Bismarck)
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To: SunkenCiv
Chauvet Cave shows that 32,000 years ago there were lions of every sort. There were elephants and rhinos etc.

The cultural history of Europe is replete with lion references as well most notably of Hercules and the Nemean Lion.

33 posted on 06/19/2010 6:38:40 AM PDT by eleni121
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To: SunkenCiv

Hold that tiger...


34 posted on 06/19/2010 9:27:16 AM PDT by dr_who
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To: SunkenCiv

Lion. It’s the other white meat.


35 posted on 06/21/2010 9:39:10 AM PDT by colorado tanker
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