Man-made global warming started with ancient hunters

American Geophysical Union ^ | Jun 30, 2010 | Unknown

[who_would_fardels_bear]

Later in the article they claim that early humans advanced global warming by slashing/burning forests and replacing them with rice paddies.

So by killing off the mammoths they replaced grasses with trees causing global warming.

Then by converting slashed/burned forests into rice paddies they replaced trees with grasses causing global warming.

Why aren't articles like this first published in The Onion?

[yefragetuwrabrumuy]

This uses the same logic that if all the Chinese in the world got up on chairs and jumped off at the same moment, it would knock the Earth out of orbit.

By comparison, the mass of the Earth is 6.6 sextillion tons. That is,

6,600,000,000,000,000,000,000 tons.

The mass of all humanity, not just the Chinese, on Earth put together is about 500 million tons. That is,

500,000,000 tons.

[steveab]

Well I don’t know. If you put a couple hundred Marines one one side of an island, wouldn’t the island capsize. (LoL)

[centurion316]

The theory for human causation for mega fauna extinctions has been around for more than 40 years. Once very popular, it has not fared very well of late. This little variant is very creative, not only did humans cause mega fauna extinction, but that begat global warming. Throw that one into your grant request and see if you are a winner!

I tend to hang on to an old fashioned idea that the Earth has been warming naturally since the ending of the last glaciation and that humans played a very small role, perhaps measurable, perhaps not.

[kitkat]

Then how do the scientists explain the ice age?

Oh, wait, they discovered a dinosaur egg, hatched it and mated it to another hatched egg, and the dinosaurs came back to cool the world.

[popdonnelly]

This is utterly ridiculous. The human population of the World at that time was tiny, and their “carbon footprint” couldn’t have been any bigger than the mammoths’.

[Elsiejay]

Then, as now and ever, variations in solar radiant energy flux dominate the earth’s temperature and its trends.

[Little Bill]

Ever read “Fallen Angles”, Niven and Pornelle? Good speech at the Con about this.

[SteamShovel]

Even before the dawn of agriculture, people may have caused the planet to warm up, a new study suggests.

BS!

Even if this were true, it would demonstrate why attempting to stop alleged AGW would not work.....

.....the puny amount of human activity then compared to now allegedly still caused large warming.

In that case, no changes now could possibly make our climate effect less than then. It would be hopeless.

Logic says forget about it and go on with our business as usual.

[SunkenCiv]

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[SunkenCiv]

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The Cycle of Cosmic Catastrophes: Flood, Fire, and Famine in the History of Civilization by Richard Firestone, Allen West, and Simon Warwick-Smith

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[SunkenCiv]

Nope. Next!

Thanks decimon.

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[mowowie]

OMG!!!

[Bob]

Why aren't articles like this first published in The Onion?

To appear in The Onion, a story needs to be at least a little bit believable. :=)

[gleeaikin]

See Sunken Civ’s Comment #31 for a rational explanation of what wiped out the megafauna and Clovis man 13,000 years ago. I have read the book and find it quite convincing.

[ApplegateRanch]

...mammoths would have grazed down any birch that grew, so the area stayed a grassland. But if the mammoths vanished, the birch could spread. In the cold of the far north, these trees would be dwarfs, only about 2 meters (6 feet) tall. Nonetheless, they would dominate the grasses.

The trees would change the color of the landscape, making it much darker so it would absorb more of the Sun's heat, in turn heating up the air.

[snip] Earlier research indicated that prehistoric farmers changed the climate by slashing and burning forests starting about 8,000 years ago, and when they introduced rice paddy farming about 5,000 years ago.

Interesting.

First, 'we' killed the mamoths, and heated up the planet by a sizzling 0.1C

Next, we CORRECTED the problem by getting rid of the encroaching, overheating forests, and replacing them with cooling grasslands [grain fields] that the forests had wiped out.

Amazing how our ancient ancestors FIXED the "problem" created by our [and their] even more ancient ancestors!

GO HUMANS!

Even if this were true, it would demonstrate why attempting to stop alleged AGW would not work.....

As for stopping AGW, I have a cunning plan!

We'll raise the albedo of the earth by everybody hanging white sheets on a clothesline everyday, until enough insolation is reflected back into space to cool off the planet!

[ApplegateRanch]

ADDENDUM(B):

“We” are now exacerbating the “problem” by planting MORE trees; and, at least in the U.S, there is MORE forest than there was in Colonial times!

SAVE THE PLANET: CHOP DOWN TREES!

[SunkenCiv]

Thanks gleeaikin!

[SunkenCiv]

The bastards appear to have changed the graphic URL *again* this week.

[SunkenCiv]

:’D