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A Scientist Takes On Gravity
NY Times ^ | July 12, 2010 | DENNIS OVERBYE

Posted on 07/13/2010 3:35:33 PM PDT by Mr. Mojo

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To: JennysCool

Get Down with Gravity!!!


21 posted on 07/13/2010 4:05:08 PM PDT by Conservative4Ever (Man the pitchforks and torches.......let the revolution begin)
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To: Hot Tabasco

http://www.lmgtfy.com/?q=conflicts+relativity+quantum+mechanics


22 posted on 07/13/2010 4:05:41 PM PDT by Southack (Media Bias means that Castro won't be punished for Cuban war crimes against Black Angolans in Africa)
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To: Ramius

Well... If the Klein-bottle is the 2-dimensional version of the Mobius-Strip, then maybe the Universe is the 3-dimensional version of the Klein-bottle.
That would account for weird dimensionalities, wouldn’t it?


23 posted on 07/13/2010 4:06:24 PM PDT by OneWingedShark (Q: Why am I here? A: To do Justly, to love mercy, and to walk humbly with my God.)
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To: cicero2k
Like Adam on “Mythbusters” says, respect gravity because (using a deep voice) “it’s the law”.

He also says "I reject your reality and replace it with one of my own".
24 posted on 07/13/2010 4:06:24 PM PDT by cripplecreek (Remember the River Raisin! (look it up))
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To: Conservative4Ever

Don’t fall for gravity.


25 posted on 07/13/2010 4:07:10 PM PDT by cripplecreek (Remember the River Raisin! (look it up))
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To: hoagy62
Right up until the point he impacts the sidewalk and explodes like a watermelon.

You miss the point.

You're saying the gas pedal is what makes the car go. He says there's something else going on under the hood that happens when you push down on the pedal.

26 posted on 07/13/2010 4:07:31 PM PDT by Ol' Dan Tucker (People should not be afraid of the government. Governement should be afraid of the people)
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To: tophat9000
Gravity is an effect (created) by time and energy/motion

I agree. One can't counteract magnetism or electricity by any amount of motion, but gravity can be counteracted.

There's something else at work.

27 posted on 07/13/2010 4:09:42 PM PDT by Ol' Dan Tucker (People should not be afraid of the government. Governement should be afraid of the people)
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To: Mr. Mojo

Gravity. Remove it, and the rest is gravy.


28 posted on 07/13/2010 4:10:06 PM PDT by Larry Lucido (You can evade reality, but you cannot evade the consequences of evading reality. ~Ayn Rand)
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To: Southack

So you admit it, he DOES have more papers published than you oh Mr. cut and paste............


29 posted on 07/13/2010 4:14:24 PM PDT by Hot Tabasco (Peanut butter was just peanut butter until I found Free Republic.........)
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To: Hot Tabasco

Are you on the correct thread? Low blood sugar? Tough day at the job? Traffic jam?


30 posted on 07/13/2010 4:16:06 PM PDT by Southack (Media Bias means that Castro won't be punished for Cuban war crimes against Black Angolans in Africa)
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To: Larry Lucido

Of course I always liked the older 50's theory of..."Grab-a-dees!"...Why bodies attract...it's just a law of nature

31 posted on 07/13/2010 4:18:18 PM PDT by tophat9000 (.............................. BP + BO = BS ...........................Formula for a disaster...)
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To: Mr. Mojo

Perhaps a better way to put it is to say that gravity is “virtual”, a side effect of space and time and mass.

To start with, it can be said that space and time are the same thing. So much so that it can be called space-time. This is a well accepted theory in physics, and the two are combined into the “space-time continuum”, for the purposes of modeling.

But within the space-time continuum, there is the other pair, of mass and gravity. And mass-gravity is *interactive* with space-time. With enough mass-gravity, space-time actually distorts, is bent. Think about the “gravity well” created by a black hole in the “grid” space model.

But this comes with the usual problem: gravitons, the hypothetical gravity quantum particle, have not been found.

So what they are proposing is: what if gravity isn’t really “needed” in the equation? That is, what if mass, distorting space-time, may be all that is needed to create the illusion of gravity.

Think of the “grid” model again. Most of the lines are straight, except around massive objects. If you were on one such line, as your path, as it curved, your route would curve with it. Importantly, the massive object wouldn’t have to affect you directly, as long as it curved the space you were traveling, your path would curve as well.

Yet by all appearances, it would appear that the massive object was acting on you. Virtual gravity.


32 posted on 07/13/2010 4:27:36 PM PDT by yefragetuwrabrumuy
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To: Mr. Mojo

Looking at gravity from this angle, they say, could shed light on some of the vexing cosmic issues of the day, like the dark energy,

Please don’t antagonize the NAACP complaint department any further, they have their hands full of other imaginary issues


33 posted on 07/13/2010 4:35:45 PM PDT by daku
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To: Larry Lucido

Duly stolen ;)


34 posted on 07/13/2010 4:37:35 PM PDT by mikrofon (Damn that Duly!)
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To: Southack
R and QM are mutually exclusive theories

So I guess you believe that Dirac's Nobel prize should be rescinded:


35 posted on 07/13/2010 4:37:53 PM PDT by AndyJackson
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To: Southack

Can be measured. I don’t believe they’ve had direct confirmation though.


36 posted on 07/13/2010 4:45:38 PM PDT by BenKenobi (I want to hear more about Sam! Samwise the stouthearted!)
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To: Mr. Mojo

On a slow news day and a blank spot in the paper to fill...what better than something about gravity! Makes the mind brace right up, it does.


37 posted on 07/13/2010 4:47:45 PM PDT by count-your-change (You don't have be brilliant, not being stupid is enough.)
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To: Mr. Mojo

I think the problem is that you’ve got to be a crack head in order to make it in academia these days.


38 posted on 07/13/2010 5:00:52 PM PDT by Brilliant
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To: All

Man has a finite mind and will never understand or explain the infinite. This is why Physicists and Cosmologists are all doubled up with such outlandish theories like string theory, dark matter, and dark energy. They will never get an answer (at least in this lifetime).


39 posted on 07/13/2010 6:01:22 PM PDT by bennowens
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To: SunkenCiv

for the string theory ping list


40 posted on 07/13/2010 11:50:39 PM PDT by Kevmo (So America gets what America deserves - the destruction of its Constitution. ~Leo Donofrio, 6/1/09)
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