No evidence for Clovis comet catastrophe, archaeologists say

University of Chicago Press Journals ^ | September 29, 2010 | Unknown

[decimon]

Clovisn’t ping.

[pogo101]

What if it had wiped out the Fresno people instead?

[RobRoy]

Ha! Everyone knows the Clovis people were wiped out by the Cletis tribe.

[Inyo-Mono]

Holliday and Meltzer believe that the disappearance of Clovis spear points is more likely the result of a cultural choice rather than a population collapse.

So the Paleo Indians, as a "culture" decided to quit make Clovis points?

[Rev DMV]

You just have the Sanger’s to deal with then...

[qam1]

Not surprising,

All these “A comet/asteroid caused Ice Age/Post Ice age extinctions” hypothesizes are just last ditch efforts to save the Myth of the Noble Savage.

It just hurts the liberal feelings that the “at one with nature” ancient man could have actually waged wars, committed genocide and hunted many species to extinction, so they try and blame it on comets/asteroids instead.

[rdl6989]

Clovis became Folsom.

http://www.thefurtrapper.com/prehistoric_indians.htm

http://www.saguaro-juniper.com/i_and_i/history/clovis_folsom_transition.htm

http://www.ele.net/art_folsom/pre-clovis_2004/preclovis2004.htm

[decimon]

So the Paleo Indians, as a "culture" decided to quit make Clovis points?

I read this as saying that sites of Clovis occupation were temporary and that different sites found provide a continuous record of Clovis occupation, hence existence.

[Circle_Hook]

Ping

[Beowulf9]

“It just hurts the liberal feelings that the “at one with nature” ancient man could have actually waged wars, committed genocide and hunted many species to extinction, so they try and blame it on comets/asteroids instead.”

After watching a show the other night on how the Roman army wiped out the human sacrificing-cannibal-diet crazy mother Druids, I’m GLAD there have been some ancient tribes gone from the earth.

Thank you Rome!

[Dusty Road]

Who says the Clovis people disappeared? Simply because they stopped using a specific tool doesn't necessarily mean they vanished. They just moved along, adapted to the new world and changed tools as the needs came up. The needs for the larger Clovis style points just wasn't there anymore but a lighter faster atlatl throwing smaller darts at higher speeds may have been just the ticket. I knap points the same way they did using only antler, bone and stone and I can tell you right now the Clovis is if not the, one of the most difficult points to produce. I would have stopped using it the first chance I got. Here's a few I made.

[decimon]

Are your neighbors wary of you? ;-)

[SunkenCiv]

I'm reminded of the joker who used his thesis (don't remember for which level) to try to build a wall of denial regarding the 12th c impact on the Moon, for which a single eyewitness account survives.

• Mammoth-killing space blast 'off the hook'

Thanks decimon.

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[SunkenCiv]

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[Some Fat Guy in L.A.]

I thought Clovis was one of Marcel’s brothers.

[Redcitizen]

Then Encino man wouldnt have existed. =)

[ApplegateRanch]

Correted title: No Evidence For Clovis Comet Catastrophe, TWO Archaeologists Say