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Matter/Antimatter from the Vacuum
Centauri Dreams ^ | 12/10/10 | Paul Gilster

Posted on 12/10/2010 2:37:31 PM PST by LibWhacker

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To: LibWhacker

The universe - a show about nothing (cue Seinfeld).


21 posted on 12/10/2010 3:18:50 PM PST by beethovenfan (If Islam is the solution, the "problem" must be freedom.)
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To: allmost

Yup, that’s the problem. All previous attempts to harvest, or describe a way to harvest, the so-called zero point energy are viewed as pseudoscience because they just don’t work. Not even close. Hoping this one is a little different.


22 posted on 12/10/2010 3:22:33 PM PST by LibWhacker
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There is a physics talk radio show....www.gravitydrivenuniverse.org Its on saturday and sunday evenings....very interesting. You can listen to an archived show....bring this up and the 3 host will discuss it with you...
The host wrote a book, Finding God in Physics.


23 posted on 12/10/2010 3:22:38 PM PST by abigail2
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To: dhs12345

If you observe it to detect a particle, a particle it will be. If you seek to observe a wave, a wave it will be. Your choice.

And forget the planetary orbiting pictures from high school physics books, it just isn’t quite that way per Heisenberg.


24 posted on 12/10/2010 3:23:04 PM PST by count-your-change (You don't have be brilliant, not being stupid is enough.)
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To: LibWhacker

Are we going to see that guy Dyson on television commercials plugging his high-energy, electron-beam vacuum now?


25 posted on 12/10/2010 3:27:40 PM PST by MIchaelTArchangel (Obama makes me miss Jimmah Cahtah!)
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To: dhs12345

I’m intrigued they think this occurs naturally around pulsars and neutron stars.


26 posted on 12/10/2010 3:30:25 PM PST by LibWhacker
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Due to gravitation? Do they include gravitation in their “vacuum” models?


27 posted on 12/10/2010 3:32:37 PM PST by dhs12345
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To: count-your-change

It is all probabilities.

This stuff is pretty abstract. It is all pure math proven by experiment and inference, and new theories.... etc. Gets more and more obscure every time.

One thing that seems to hold up: the conservation law.

Wonder if we are creating this minute universe out of our own minds? Sort of the Schrödinger model on a large scale.


28 posted on 12/10/2010 3:41:29 PM PST by dhs12345
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To: LibWhacker

As Christine has repeatedly said, “The brane theory breaks down at the quantum level when considering the fecundity of the electron for producing other wave/particles”. —Christine O’Donnell


29 posted on 12/10/2010 3:45:18 PM PST by HospiceNurse (Draft O'Donnell 4 President)
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To: LibWhacker

But there is only one electron:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/One-electron_universe


30 posted on 12/10/2010 4:11:25 PM PST by epithermal
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Just like there actually is only one Holiday fruitcake....


31 posted on 12/10/2010 4:27:55 PM PST by mikrofon (Pi, to 8 slices)
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BWHAHAHA - I hope its not my turn to receive it!


32 posted on 12/10/2010 4:35:31 PM PST by epithermal
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To: dhs12345

Hmmm...An interesting thought indeed. John Wheeler said that the observer always became part of the experiment so that the very act of observation affected the outcome.

Schrodinger’s cat ain’t nothin’ til we open the box and look at it.


33 posted on 12/10/2010 6:47:04 PM PST by count-your-change (You don't have be brilliant, not being stupid is enough.)
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Thanks LibWhacker! Not exactly on topic, but most likely of interest.
 
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34 posted on 12/10/2010 7:10:59 PM PST by SunkenCiv (The 2nd Amendment follows right behind the 1st because some people are hard of hearing.)
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Thanks LibWhacker! Some Electric Universe interest, among other things.
 
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35 posted on 12/10/2010 7:11:01 PM PST by SunkenCiv (The 2nd Amendment follows right behind the 1st because some people are hard of hearing.)
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New work at the University of Michigan, now written up in Physical Review Letters, discusses the possibility of producing matter and antimatter from the vacuum. The idea is that a high-energy electron beam combined with an intense laser pulse can pull matter and antimatter components out of the vacuum, creating a cascade of additional particles and anti-particles. UM Engineering research scientist Igor Sokolov has this to say about the theoretical study:

"We can now calculate how, from a single electron, several hundred particles can be produced. We believe this happens in nature near pulsars and neutron stars..."
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36 posted on 12/10/2010 7:11:27 PM PST by SunkenCiv (The 2nd Amendment follows right behind the 1st because some people are hard of hearing.)
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There is no such thing as photons; only darkons.
37 posted on 12/10/2010 7:19:58 PM PST by mad_as_he$$ (V for Vendetta.)
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Due to gravitation?

Yes, I'm guessing, indirectly due to gravity. I haven't even begun trying to read the paper, and don't think I will (my math just isn't good enough), but the article says their method involves a "high-energy electron beam combined with an intense laser pulse." Pulsars and neutron stars produce something like that in the form of intense jets of material and radiation that erupt from opposite poles of the star.

Now, whether or not they include gravitation in their models in a more substantive way, I can't say. It'd be fantastic if they do. I'd love to see that even if 99% of it went right over my head, as I'm sure it would! :-)

38 posted on 12/10/2010 7:20:52 PM PST by LibWhacker
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To: LibWhacker

The most important discovery of all time was the wheel...


39 posted on 12/10/2010 7:27:08 PM PST by wendy1946
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String theory is an attempt to prove that it actually is possible to construct a theory stupider than evolution.


40 posted on 12/11/2010 6:45:40 AM PST by wendy1946
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