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It wasn’t CO2: Global sea levels started rising before 1800
JoNova ^ | July 26th, 2011 | Joanne

Posted on 07/27/2011 9:51:14 AM PDT by Ernest_at_the_Beach

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1 posted on 07/27/2011 9:51:18 AM PDT by Ernest_at_the_Beach
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

Ah, ‘tis refreshing to see analysis done by folks who actually have an understanding of math. As has been amply demonstrated previously, the “sky is falling” group appears to consist of mostly D students.

And of course, the MSM - not even being able to get a D in “Science for Idiots,” goes along for the ride.


2 posted on 07/27/2011 9:56:32 AM PDT by Da Coyote
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

But that still didn’t stop Al Gore buying a multi-million dollar condo off the beach.


3 posted on 07/27/2011 9:57:01 AM PDT by WKUHilltopper (And yet...we continue to tolerate this crap...)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

Tapping wells into fossil water, a water table under, for instance, desert from a time when the area was wetter, is supposed to account for at least a quarter of any measured sea level rise. But I came across that information randomly. I’ve never once heard it mentioned among ‘global warming’ claims.


4 posted on 07/27/2011 9:57:36 AM PDT by OldNewYork
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

anybody else remember the temples in India that were momentarily revealed after the Tsunami?

http://tinyurl.com/4222kzl


5 posted on 07/27/2011 9:58:34 AM PDT by MNDude (so that's what they meant by Carter's second term)
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To: TigerLikesRooster; landsbaum; Signalman; NormsRevenge; steelyourfaith; Lancey Howard; ...
Related threads:

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UN Climate Body Struggling to Pinpoint Rising Sea Levels(they don't know)

Sea levels rising? Not exactly

No acceleration of global sea level over the past 100 years” (Sorry Algore-Sea levels not rising)

And a contrary :

Climate science 'may have underestimated' damage from rising levels of carbon dioxide (Australia)

6 posted on 07/27/2011 10:00:33 AM PDT by Ernest_at_the_Beach ( Support Geert Wilders)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach
"Something else was driving that warming trend."
Exhibit A:


7 posted on 07/27/2011 10:01:29 AM PDT by americanophile ("this absurd theology of an immoral Bedouin, is a rotting corpse which poisons our lives" - Ataturk)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach
"Something else was driving that warming trend."
Exhibit A:


8 posted on 07/27/2011 10:02:38 AM PDT by americanophile ("this absurd theology of an immoral Bedouin, is a rotting corpse which poisons our lives" - Ataturk)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach; tobyhill

CO2 does NOT cause global warming.
Chemical readings by NOBEL PRIZEWINNERS show it was higher in the 1800’s than now!
if even ONE CO2 reading from last century is higher than now, the entire Hoax is revealed. yet there are, and some were made by Nobel Prize winners in Chemistry:
page 5 and 9, show overall CO2:

180 Years accurate CO2 - Gasanalysis of Air
by Chemical Methods (Short version)

http://www.anenglishmanscastle.com/180_years_accurate_Co2_Chemical_Methods.pdf

and this one is a good sample of the fraud:
http://stevengoddard.wordpress.com/2010/11/04/hiding-the-decline-in-washington-dc/

and in addition, to altering 100 year old daa, making them COLDER to increase the “warming trend”, they have also falsified sea-level data:

Changing Tides: Research Center Under Fire for ‘Adjusted’ Sea-Level Data (The hoax continues)
Fox News ^ | 6/17/2011 | Maxim Lott
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2736328/posts


9 posted on 07/27/2011 10:03:02 AM PDT by Elendur (the hope and change i need: Sarah / Colonel West in 2012)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach
Other evidence indicates that the sea level started its current rise over 20,000 years ago at the time of the last glacial maximum. I find the meltwater pulse that occurred about 14,000 years ago very interesting. Evidence indicates that the sea level rose about 60 feet in less than 10 years.

Picture that happening today.


10 posted on 07/27/2011 10:04:14 AM PDT by CharlyFord (t)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach
When calculating a rise or rise rate, it's always good to start at a real low point in the data stream (and truncate "anomalous" earlier data).

The generation of a hockey stick can be a big boost to one's career in "Science".

11 posted on 07/27/2011 10:05:25 AM PDT by Paladin2
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To: americanophile

yes. the picture worth 1000 words.
in the 1980’s and 1990’s, the sun was the most active it’s been, in the past 1000 years.
...and temperatures went up!

in the past 10 years, the magnetic flux readings, etc., are the lowest ever recorded by instruments. sunspots are down.
...and the earth has gotten colder, since 2003.


12 posted on 07/27/2011 10:09:57 AM PDT by Elendur (the hope and change i need: Sarah / Colonel West in 2012)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach
Note that it quite easy for "atmospheric" samples to be contaminated by local sources of CO2 (humans breathing in the lab, neighborhood clear cutting, local combustion etc.)

If human CO2 output is 4%, it can easily overwhelm 200 ppm.

13 posted on 07/27/2011 10:11:59 AM PDT by Paladin2
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

Laws of physics and thermodynamics would dictate that the Earth would shrink a bit as it cools.. hence sea water levels should advance, albeit minimally, as the mass of the Earth loses a bit of girth. just a theory. :-)


14 posted on 07/27/2011 10:12:02 AM PDT by NormsRevenge (Semper Fi ... Godspeed .. Monthly Donor Onboard .. Obama: Epic Fail or Bust!!!)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach
clever graph...The 1700 data comes from where??

Remember, this graph has to include every shore at every point for every year...and that's an impossibility.

15 posted on 07/27/2011 10:13:44 AM PDT by Sacajaweau
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach
"The fundamental principle here is one cannot properly go beyond the evidence and call it science."

The theory is only as good as it's ability to accurately extrapolate beyond the data to date.

16 posted on 07/27/2011 10:16:12 AM PDT by Paladin2
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

34cm is about a foot. So even if the sea rise risk were true, WHO CARES? Take the billions saved from stopping the carbon witch hunt and built a 35cm sea wall to save the rich liberals houses in malibu.


17 posted on 07/27/2011 10:22:34 AM PDT by Wayne07
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To: NormsRevenge

Off the wall, but posssible, Water has weight, the shear weight of the water maybe sinking things....Just sayin....


18 posted on 07/27/2011 10:23:19 AM PDT by Issaquahking
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

I’m still waiting for the actual evidence that sea levels are rising. If that were true, then the UN prediction about having to move people off certain islands by 2010 would have come true, “anthropogenic global warming” or not. (But it didn’t.)


19 posted on 07/27/2011 10:28:26 AM PDT by Olog-hai
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach; SteamShovel; Bockscar; Thunder90; rdl6989; marvlus; Fractal Trader; ...
Thanx for the ping Ernest_at_the_Beach !

 


Beam me to Planet Gore !

20 posted on 07/27/2011 10:28:49 AM PDT by steelyourfaith (If it's "green" ... it's crap !!!)
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