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2012: Killer Solar Flares Are a Physical Impossibility (However...)
NASA ^ | October 9, 2011 | Karen C. Fox

Posted on 11/11/2011 12:35:03 PM PST by decimon

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To: decimon
Anyone over the age of 11 has already lived through such a solar maximum with no harm.

That's an idiotic statement by the author. This fact we haven't seen anything serious occur doesn't mean it cannot. The sun rotates just like other celestial bodies and the flares/CMEs can miss us. Perhaps we've just been extremely lucky.

21 posted on 11/11/2011 1:29:11 PM PST by edpc (Wilby 2012)
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To: DBrow

roentgen equivalent man (REM).


22 posted on 11/11/2011 1:32:42 PM PST by brivette (lol!)
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To: StAnDeliver
It was a successfully creepy, scary, movie. Much better for showing on a Halloween night than some ordinary slasher film.
23 posted on 11/11/2011 1:34:57 PM PST by BenLurkin (This is not a statement of fact. It is either opinion or satire; or both)
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To: cripplecreek

"We’ll always have Niburu."
24 posted on 11/11/2011 1:35:35 PM PST by BenLurkin (This is not a statement of fact. It is either opinion or satire; or both)
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To: Mmogamer; cripplecreek

Okay, if we combine this Nibiru with cripplecreek’s Niburu then we’re getting close to a catastrophic collision with Uhura. Worked for Kirk. ;-)


25 posted on 11/11/2011 1:41:41 PM PST by decimon
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Thanks, I wasn't aware of this! I've never seen an aurora in Colorado, but I would have that year.

If that CME could fry telegraph lines it could do the same for telephone lines and electronics. It would be a mess.

26 posted on 11/11/2011 1:44:30 PM PST by colorado tanker
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To: StAnDeliver
This movie, despite being a paycheck flick for Cage, is not as bad as most say.

It was full of location shot bloopers (it's hard to make Australia look like Massachusetts.)

27 posted on 11/11/2011 2:00:51 PM PST by buccaneer81 (ECOMCON)
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28 posted on 11/11/2011 2:44:18 PM PST by RedMDer (Forward With Confidence!)
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To: decimon
In addition, the next solar maximum is predicted to occur in late 2013 or early 2014..."

Dang! I was hoping something would have some chance to save us from obamo's 2nd, 3rd, & 4th terms.

29 posted on 11/11/2011 2:46:49 PM PST by SuperLuminal (Where is another agitator for republicanism like Sam Adams when we need him?)
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To: decimon; 75thOVI; agrace; aimhigh; Alice in Wonderland; AndrewC; aragorn; aristotleman; ...

Thanks decimon.
...some people worry that a gigantic "killer solar flare" could hurl enough energy to destroy Earth. Citing the accurate fact that solar activity is currently ramping up in its standard 11-year cycle, there are those who believe that 2012 could be coincident with such a flare.

Thanks .




30 posted on 11/11/2011 4:11:38 PM PST by SunkenCiv (It's never a bad time to FReep this link -- https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/)
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;') [singing] two thousand uno du'os party over says the lights of heaven /
tonight i'm gonna party like it's two thousand eleven
December 20, 2012

31 posted on 11/11/2011 4:13:56 PM PST by SunkenCiv (It's never a bad time to FReep this link -- https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/)
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To: spokeshave; wolfcreek; Gideon7

Hey, thanks, that could be a topic of its own. OTOH, maybe it already is, I didn’t check, and there are a couple million FR topics...

http://science.nasa.gov/science-news/science-at-nasa/2003/23oct_superstorm/

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Solar_storm_of_1859

http://www.google.com/search?q=solar+storm+of+1859+site:freerepublic.com


32 posted on 11/11/2011 4:19:28 PM PST by SunkenCiv (It's never a bad time to FReep this link -- https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/)
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To: decimon

“And, even at their worst, the sun’s flares are not physically capable of destroying Earth”

No but they can knock out the big transformers and take down the grid. Then we will all be stars in the new reality series “Back to the Past of 1832” or “How I learned to read by candlelight and wash the clothes in a pot over a fire in the back yard.”

Those transformers take 2 years to replace as we do not produce them in the USA. The only people who will be living in any semblence of normality are those with an alternative electrical system, well and wood stoves and at least 1 year of food stored up. Look down your street. Who has solar or wind? Thats what I thought. We are putting it in our mountain house. Most people will not survive 1-2 years without elecricity. We could see a 70-90% die off in the US alone.


33 posted on 11/11/2011 4:44:08 PM PST by Georgia Girl 2 (The only purpose of a pistol is to fight your way back to the rifle you should never have dropped.)
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To: decimon
In addition, the next solar maximum is predicted to occur in late 2013 or early 2014, not 2012.

I guess that's NASA's latest prediction. They've been moving it forward a year for the last 3, because there was such a dearth of sunspots in the 2008-2010 time frame. They kept predicting the new solar cycle would ramp up, and it just didn't happen. Now the sunspots are coming back, but they're not anywhere NEAR a maximum, and may not even get there by 2014, despite NASA predictions.

34 posted on 11/11/2011 5:11:22 PM PST by SuziQ
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To: SuziQ

If sunspots will mean reasonably warm weather then I hope they increase for a few more years. Snow up the wazoo is just not fun.


35 posted on 11/11/2011 5:40:33 PM PST by decimon
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To: decimon

Another solar storm like the Carrington Event of 1859 would kill a lot of people given our dependence upon technology.


36 posted on 11/11/2011 6:07:00 PM PST by Mike Darancette (999er for Cain.)
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To: decimon

The active sunspot cycle in the late 80s to the mid 90s was the reason for any of the warming we had in the 90s, into the the early part of the century. It was a natural cycle that the AGW alarmists used to try to convince people that humans were causing it.


37 posted on 11/11/2011 7:01:15 PM PST by SuziQ
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To: brivette

“roentgen equivalent man (REM).”

Yup, and for most gamma spectra REM=RAD, which is 100 ergs per gram.

So 50000 ergs per gram delivered to the Earth surface would dose us most severely.

And an erg is 1E-7 Joules, and a typical camera flash is 50 J, or 50E7 ergs, which is not a lot of energy in astronomical terms.

I find it hard to accept that our sun “cannot” deliver that much energy in a mega-flare or CME.


38 posted on 11/11/2011 7:16:48 PM PST by DBrow
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thanks RinaseaofDs:

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/bloggers/2783566/posts?page=285#285


39 posted on 11/11/2011 8:13:18 PM PST by SunkenCiv (It's never a bad time to FReep this link -- https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/)
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To: StAnDeliver

I was suprised at the ending. It was actually rather uplifting.


40 posted on 11/12/2011 9:06:59 AM PST by Excellence ( CTRL-GALT-DELETE)
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