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SETI Astronomer Jill Tarter Retiring After 35-Year Alien Hunt
SPACE.com ^ | 22 May 2012 | Mike Wall

Posted on 05/23/2012 4:26:04 AM PDT by iowamark

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To: from occupied ga

Probably a good chunk of change...I’ve been running @Home since before I was a FReeper.


21 posted on 05/23/2012 6:43:52 AM PDT by Psycho_Bunny (Burning the Quran is a waste of perfectly good fire.)
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To: Strategerist
consumed with hatred of science and scientists.

Nope just a hatred of my taxes being pi$$ed away unconstitutional idiocy, and this is idiocy - big time.

1) It’s a microscopic amount of money.

one cent of taxpayer money spent on this is a waste.

it’s not federally funded

This is a falshood - otherwise know as a lie. Didn't you read the article? Last I looked the Air Force is a federal institution, and funded by the Univ of Calif is also TAXPAYER funded and big state universities get gobs of federal tax dollars. So don't try to whizz on our heads and tell us it's raining.

But let’s all mock someone smarter than us

She may be smarter then you, in fact from your koolaid comments I'm sure she's smarter than you, but she's not smarter than the rest of us. Unless you count the fact that she's run a good long career out of conning people out of their money for someting that's of the same scientific value as perpetual motion, cold fusion, and 300 mpg carburators (supressed by the oil companies of course) as being smart.

single greatest accomplishment in human history.

Really? You really think that? Then there isn't any hope for you at all.

22 posted on 05/23/2012 6:50:44 AM PDT by from occupied ga (Your government is your most dangerous enemy)
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To: Psycho_Bunny

Then I congratulate you on having the guts to back up your convictions. A lot of people on these space threads don’t. (I still don’t agree with you though.)


23 posted on 05/23/2012 6:54:12 AM PDT by from occupied ga (Your government is your most dangerous enemy)
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To: iowamark

Now that she is retired and has lots of spare time she should read the book “Rare Earth”..


24 posted on 05/23/2012 7:47:19 AM PDT by desertfreedom765
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To: Psycho_Bunny; from occupied ga

my son kept his computer constantly on(that we bought him and powered)for years constantly checking for SETI.

when he burned it out, I let him buy his own (actually he makes his own computers now...or assembles them or whatever you call it) when his own finances were involved he stopped using them for SETI.


25 posted on 05/23/2012 8:04:41 AM PDT by Vaquero (Don't pick a fight with an old guy. If he is too old to fight, he'll just kill you.)
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26 posted on 05/23/2012 8:22:06 AM PDT by TheOldLady
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To: Strategerist

Considering even our righteousness is filty rags I the sight of our holy God, I know she sinned. We commit sins because we are sinners by nature we can do nothing else.

And of course I’ve not spent every waking moment advancing the gospel. I regret I haven’t done more. I intend to dedicate more time and treasure to the mission He put all believers on.


27 posted on 05/23/2012 8:37:24 AM PDT by .45 Long Colt
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To: Strategerist

The single greatest accomplishment in history occurred at Calvary. Jesus Christ paid the price for sin and redeemed for Himself a bride.


28 posted on 05/23/2012 8:42:29 AM PDT by .45 Long Colt
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To: .45 Long Colt

That should have said, even our righteousness is as filthy rags in the sight of God.

I struggle to type on my iPad


29 posted on 05/23/2012 8:49:08 AM PDT by .45 Long Colt
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To: Vaquero
SETI involves more hardware than just a computer. Was he getting a live feed from a radiotelescope somewhere?

when his own finances were involved he stopped using them for SETI.

That attitude is very revalent on space thread. The space kadets are shrill about the usefulness of spending other peoples' money on their space dreams. At least Psycho_bunny donates his own resources to the cause.

30 posted on 05/23/2012 8:58:08 AM PDT by from occupied ga (Your government is your most dangerous enemy)
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To: from occupied ga; Bartholomew Roberts
The Federal Government hasn’t paid for SETI in years.

So what?

Lets see, ya got 5,000 government employees per day retiring at 50 years old, on tax paid lottery style pensions, with tax paid top shelf medical benefits, and your hysterical over this?

Come on.....

31 posted on 05/23/2012 9:11:13 AM PDT by dragnet2 (Diversion and evasion are tools of deceit)
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To: from occupied ga

I find it interesting as all get out.

but I will leave it up to capitalists (not interested in government involvement anymore)

Space X and Virgin Galactic etc are a good start with space exploration.

as far as finding intelegent life elsewhere? perhaps they will find US. and that might NOT be a good thing(even Stephan Hawking agrees with that).


32 posted on 05/23/2012 9:14:48 AM PDT by Vaquero (Don't pick a fight with an old guy. If he is too old to fight, he'll just kill you.)
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To: iowamark

There is only about one means of speed of light interstellar communications with enough power to overcome interference to send messages across such vast distances.

It is called a stellar Aldis lamp. An Aldis lamp is a “shutter lamp” used by ships at sea to silently communicate with each other.

By creating a much larger version in space, between the local star and the target star, that by applying a small current will change from transparent to opaque, simple code messages can be sent one way.

If we created such a lamp, it would likely be between the orbit of Mars and the orbit of Earth. Aiming it would be difficult, because it would have to stay between our Sun and where that target star system was going to be.


33 posted on 05/23/2012 9:31:12 AM PDT by yefragetuwrabrumuy
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To: dragnet2

By your logic wasting the taxpayers’ hard earned dollars is OK as long as somewhere else greater waste is occurring.


34 posted on 05/23/2012 10:25:17 AM PDT by from occupied ga (Your government is your most dangerous enemy)
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To: from occupied ga
The Federal Government hasn’t paid for SETI in years.

So what?

Lets see, ya got 5,000 government employees per day retiring at 50 years old, on tax paid lottery style pensions, with tax paid top shelf medical benefits, and your hysterical over this?

By your logic

My logic makes total sense, when compared to your hysteria over SETI. Based on the fact SETI is not choking off the American people, like government at all levels, with their tens of hundreds of thousands of over paid bloated bureaucrats and their lottery style tax paid retirement pensions which are causing extreme economic damage to America.

35 posted on 05/23/2012 10:52:19 AM PDT by dragnet2 (Diversion and evasion are tools of deceit)
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To: yefragetuwrabrumuy

It would have to be kind of large wouldn’t it? I.e. about 864,000 miles in diameter to completely obscure the sun. Smaller if you’re will to settle for just dimming it somewhat.


36 posted on 05/23/2012 11:08:52 AM PDT by from occupied ga (Your government is your most dangerous enemy)
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To: dragnet2
your hysteria over SETI

When you learn to discuss something rationally let me know. I'm tired of blowhards who are unable to discuss anything without resorting to distortion (in your case) and outright lies (by some of the other space kadets)

My logic makes total sense,

No it doesn't. You're condoning a small waste of taxpayer funds because there are larger wastes. NEWS FLASH!! This thread is about SETI, not government retirees' fabulous pensions. You're simply trying to change the subject.

37 posted on 05/23/2012 11:16:39 AM PDT by from occupied ga (Your government is your most dangerous enemy)
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To: dragnet2
Lets see, ya got 5,000 government employees per day retiring at 50 years old, on tax paid lottery style pensions, with tax paid top shelf medical benefits, and your hysterical over this?

Who's retiring at the age of 50 in the federal government? Maybe GS-1811 gun toters, but so do police all over the country. I'm not in the government, but I'm told that feds have to have at least 30 years in and can't go until after they are 55. Did I miss something? I do hope that Obama retires now that he's 50!... well, maybe we'll do that for him!

38 posted on 05/23/2012 11:23:00 AM PDT by JennyG
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To: from occupied ga

Not really. If you stand outside and look at the Sun, you can shield your eye with a nickel. Just put the device in space far enough away and it can be just a few hundred meters on a side, mostly to insure coverage because of the movement of the Sun and the target, which could be hundreds of light years away.


39 posted on 05/23/2012 11:30:35 AM PDT by yefragetuwrabrumuy
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To: yefragetuwrabrumuy
Just put the device in space far enough away and it can be just a few hundred meters on a side, mostly to insure coverage because of the movement of the Sun and the target, which could be hundreds of light years away

You didn't do the math. I hate it when people spout off nonsense that is so easily shown to be wrong. At 100 ly you're looking at covering a target at least 5.87x1014 miles away. you can cover the sun with a nickel because you hold it close in front of your eye and your eye, the target receptor, is relatively small. BUT you can't get close to your target receptor. to carry out your analogy, if the earth were the target and you were attempting to black out the sun, the equivalent of the shutter at 100,000,000 miles from the sun on a target 100 ly away would be 92,000,000 (distance from earth to sun) times ( 108)/5.87x1014 = 92million times 1.7 times 10-7 or your shutter would have to be about 15 miles from the sun to give the same size on earth that a target 100 ly away would see. in short you need a shutter that would cover the sun at 15 miles from the sun. How much of the sun would that nickel cover if it were only 15 miles from the sun?

Not to mention that your target would be about 200,000,000 miles in diameter (about the diameter of earth's orbit), but that makes the geometry a little more complicated and basically shifts the optimum point where you could get away with the smallest shutter to about 1/3 of the distance between the sun and the target system. Not something that anyone could do.

40 posted on 05/23/2012 12:11:37 PM PDT by from occupied ga (Your government is your most dangerous enemy)
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