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Archeologists find 3,300-year-old burnt wheat
Jerusalem Post ^ | Tuesday, July 24, 2012 | Sharon Udasin

Posted on 07/28/2012 7:32:50 PM PDT by SunkenCiv

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Team from Heb. U., Israel Nature and Parks Authority uncovers 14 large pithoi-style bulk storage jugs filled with wheat. Photo: Sharon Zuckerman

Archeologists find 3,300-year-old burnt wheat

1 posted on 07/28/2012 7:32:58 PM PDT by SunkenCiv
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To: SunkenCiv
I was just learning to cook back then. Stuff can get burned. ;)

/johnny

2 posted on 07/28/2012 7:35:42 PM PDT by JRandomFreeper (Gone Galt)
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To: 75thOVI; agrace; aimhigh; Alice in Wonderland; AndrewC; aragorn; aristotleman; Avoiding_Sulla; ...
This is also one of *those* topics. From the recesses of the hard drive and/or reprised from other topics:
Did Joshua Destroy Canaanite Hatzor?
by Clarence H. Wagner, Jr.
September 1997

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Hatzor is the largest archaeological tel in Israel. The discovery of several cuneiform tablets at the 800-dunam (200-acre) site over the years points to the likelihood that Hatzor will produce the first ancient archive, other than the Dead Sea Scrolls, ever to be found in the country... Ben-Tor... hoped there might be two archives -- one in each of the two palaces identified on the acropolis atop the tel. The late Prof. Yigael Yadin had been the first to identify a palace during his landmark dig at Hatzor in the 1950s, dating it to the 18th century BC or Middle Bronze (MB) period. That fitted perfectly with the date of the royal archive in Mari, Syria, in which cuneiform messages relating to MB Hatzor were found - the first hint of a possible archive at Hatzor. However, when Ben-Tor began his excavations in 1990 he came upon a palace near Yadin's which he dated, by means of its ceramics, to a few hundred years later -- that is, to the last half of the second millennium or Late Bronze (LB) period. The generally accepted dating of the biblical destruction of Hatzor by Joshua roughly coincides with the date of this LB palace's destruction, the 14th or 13th centuries BCE. This summer, as he probed the area of the palaces, Ben-Tor began to have an uneasy feeling that Yadin, his former teacher, had made a wrong dating and that there was in fact only one palace -- his own LB structure... Even if he is a palace short, however, the one that Ben-Tor is left with is proving enormous... The basalt stones had been distorted by a terrible fire which likewise echoes the biblical description of Joshua's destruction. It was clear for anyone to see that the basalt stones had been fractured by a hot fire. Geologists report that the fire had to be over 1200 degrees to cause this kind of damage to basalt.
The Burning Of Hazor
by Abraham Rabinovich and Neil Asher Silberman
The Egyptians could be responsible. Pharaoh Seti I, in an inscription describing his military campaign against Canaan ca. 1300 B.C., claimed to have destroyed Hazor. Another possibility is that Ramses II could have conquered the city, either on his way northward to Syria before the Battle of Kadesh in 1275 B.C. or on his return to Egypt afterward. Yet Ben-Tor believes that the intentional smashing of statues at Hazor, particularly those of the Egyptian kings, makes these possibilities unlikely. He also dismisses the likelihood of destruction at the hands of a rival Canaanite city-state because of the apparent absence of nearby cities powerful enough to attack Hazor. As for the Sea Peoples, Ben-Tor notes that not a single sherd of their distinctive decorated pottery has been found in the city, which is much further inland than the sites they are known to have conquered. That leaves the Israelites. The discovery of an archive at Hazor might pinpoint the date of the city's destruction, or provide information about the historical situation in Canaan in the years immediately preceding the Israelite settlement.
 
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3 posted on 07/28/2012 7:36:33 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/)
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4 posted on 07/28/2012 7:36:38 PM PDT by I see my hands (It's time to.. KICK OUT THE JAMS, MOTHER FREEPERS!)
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 GGG managers are SunkenCiv, StayAt HomeMother & Ernest_at_the_Beach
Not "Canaanite" -- Israelite.

To all -- please ping me to other topics which are appropriate for the GGG list.


5 posted on 07/28/2012 7:38:14 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/)
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To: I see my hands

:’)


6 posted on 07/28/2012 7:45:25 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/)
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To: JRandomFreeper

And to think I was about to attribute this to time-traveling muzzies.


7 posted on 07/28/2012 7:45:25 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/)
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To: SunkenCiv

I didn’t know my mother-in-law was cooking back then...


8 posted on 07/28/2012 8:03:00 PM PDT by Cyber Liberty (Obama considers the Third World morally superior to the United States.)
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To: SunkenCiv

I just burned some bean soup - in case they are interested.


9 posted on 07/28/2012 8:16:12 PM PDT by Rio (Tempis fugit.)
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To: JRandomFreeper

Me, too. When I burnt my wheat, I slathered it with butter, and called it toast.

Cheers!


10 posted on 07/28/2012 8:20:05 PM PDT by SgtBob (Freedom is not for the faint of heart. Semper Fi!)
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To: SunkenCiv

Archeologists find 6,300-year-old burnt wheat

not 3,300


11 posted on 07/28/2012 8:34:54 PM PDT by bunkerhill7 (???? . what??? Who knew? .)
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To: SunkenCiv
Archeologists find 3,300-year-old burnt wheat

How little we have changed despite all our modern appliances...

12 posted on 07/28/2012 8:40:13 PM PDT by Caipirabob (I say we take off and Newt the site from orbit. It's the only way to be sure...)
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To: SunkenCiv

And just how was *I* supposed to know that it is inadvisable to tie a torch to the tails of foxes if one didn’t want a burnt wheat crop?


13 posted on 07/28/2012 9:29:14 PM PDT by Altariel ("Curse your sudden but inevitable betrayal!")
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To: SunkenCiv

Interesting. I’ve been reading a study guide on Joshua. Now I can’t wait to ge to Hazor!


14 posted on 07/29/2012 6:36:42 AM PDT by BenLurkin (This is not a statement of fact. It is either opinion or satire; or both)
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To: bunkerhill7
Archeologists find 6,300-year-old burnt wheat

Actually, article says 2000 to 3000 BCE for the palace, which would be 4000 to 5000 years old. Where the headline gets 3300 years or 1300 BCE for the wheat is not explained in the text. Although one would assume carbon dating would be effective.

1300 BCE would probably put this about a century before the purported invasion of Canaan by Joshua.

15 posted on 07/29/2012 10:02:21 AM PDT by Sherman Logan
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To: Sherman Logan

Sansom did it. c. 1000-1100 B.C.
Samson`s Flaming Foxtails throught the grainfields.
viz

Judges 15: 4-5
“Samson then went out and caught three hundred jackals. He lashed the jackals’ tails together in pairs and tied a torch between each pair of tails. He then set fire to the torches and let them loose in the Philistine fields of ripe grain. Everything burned, both stacked and standing grain, vineyards and olive orchards—everything.”


16 posted on 07/29/2012 11:26:25 AM PDT by bunkerhill7 (?????? . what??? Who knew? .)
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To: bunkerhill7

So they gathered up the burnt grain and stored it in the palace? I don’t think so.

Anywho, Hazor is way over by the Jordan in Upper Galilee, a long way from Philistia. Or a long way as things went back then. It’s only 125 miles or so, a two hour drive on the interstate.


17 posted on 07/29/2012 11:36:11 AM PDT by Sherman Logan
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To: Sherman Logan

The Philistines had conquered all of Judah in that area?

Judges 15:11 “Then three thousand men from Judah went down to the cave in the rock of Etam and said to Samson, “Don’t you realize that the PHILISTINES ARE RULERS OVER US? What have you done to us?”


18 posted on 07/29/2012 12:14:04 PM PDT by bunkerhill7 (?????? . what??? Who knew? .)
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To: bunkerhill7
This was in the time of the Judges. Israel was still divided into tribes. Hazor was in the territory of the tribe of Naphtali, almost to Dan, the very far north end of Israel.

IOW, as far from the territory of the tribe of Judah as it was possible to get.

The Israelites in this part of the land had their own problems, mostly with Syrians, but I doubt they had much trouble with Philistines.

19 posted on 07/29/2012 12:38:12 PM PDT by Sherman Logan
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To: SunkenCiv

Part of the set-up for the History Channel’s new Gordon Ramsey series on bad cooking through history?


20 posted on 07/29/2012 12:56:09 PM PDT by x
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