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Who invented clothes? A Palaeolithic archaeologist answers
Guardian UK ^ | Monday, May 20, 2013 | Becky Wragg Sykes

Posted on 05/25/2013 6:50:05 AM PDT by SunkenCiv

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To: The Sons of Liberty

“Who invented the T-shirt?”

The muzzies invented this style;
http://wifebeatershirt.com/


21 posted on 05/25/2013 9:29:01 AM PDT by Dr. Bogus Pachysandra ( Ya can't pick up a turd by the clean end!)
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To: DannyTN
Sometimes on weekends we'll drive over to Point Lookout and watch the Koreans fish for crabs there at the Coast Guard shoreline. We know some of America's most advanced medical researchers are in that crowd. Yet they are frequently seen using barely neolithic quality equipment, and maybe even a woven reed crab pot ~

Yeah, I can believe folks from 100,000 years back used handles ~ maybe even 250,000 years back ~ or 1.2 million years back ~ and homemade spear points.

22 posted on 05/25/2013 10:03:26 AM PDT by muawiyah
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To: SunkenCiv
Men and women used to wear the same clothes. Then something happened to change all that. Does anybody know what that something was? Something to ponder on a cold, raining Memorial Day Saturday afternoon.

High heels. Why do women wear them? They seem so uncomfortable. But they sure look good in them and when they are wearing them, you know they are coming by way of that that click-clack sound. I do appreciate the warning so that I have the opportunity to correct my own appearance as they approach.

23 posted on 05/25/2013 10:26:26 AM PDT by SamAdams76
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To: bunkerhill7

That is the last time that I will offer you a Penny’s for you thoughts, you don’t want to become a Targets.


24 posted on 05/25/2013 1:18:16 PM PDT by ansel12 (Social liberalism/libertarianism, empowers, creates and imports, and breeds, economic liberals.)
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To: DannyTN
Extrapolate backwards the population growth of man and it doesn't support a 100,000 year time frame.

There is no particularly logical reason to posit a constant or even continuous growth rate for the human population.

Even in historical times we know of periods during which the population in various areas stagnated or even declined sharply.

In the course of about a century the human population off the world dropped by about 10% due to Mongol massacres.

China has a repeated cycle over the last 3000 years of one dynasty falling apart,partially due to population reaching its limits with available resources. The resultant chaos often lasted for decades or even a century or two. When the next dynasty finally got control, the population was often 25% to 50% of what it had been under the previous dynasty. Population starts to built in the peace created by the new dynasty... Rinse and repeat.

Population under the Roman Empire was a large multiple of that supported during the Dark Ages.

The human population of the Americas dropped by something liked 85% to 95% during the 1500s as a result of the introduction of Afro-Eurasian diseases.

25 posted on 05/25/2013 1:41:58 PM PDT by Sherman Logan
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To: bunkerhill7

“...I.Magnin became extinct in 1984.”

You sure about that date?

I still have a pair of shoes I bought on sale during the fall of 1986, at I.Magnin in Portland, Oregon. This was the year my enlistment in the Navy ended.


26 posted on 05/25/2013 1:48:19 PM PDT by SatinDoll (NATURAL BORN CITZEN: BORN IN THE USA OF CITIZEN PARENTS.)
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To: SatinDoll

I just knew I shouldna used wiki.


27 posted on 05/25/2013 1:52:17 PM PDT by bunkerhill7 (("The Second Amendment has no limits on firepower"-NY State Senator Kathleen A. Marchione.))
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To: DannyTN

Steel was first made in Africa over 100,000 years ago. It was repeated in Damascus before the birth of Jesus Christ. Yet, in neither case did wide-scale manufacturing result. That occurred in Europe in the last few decades of the 18th century in Germany, spreading to England then to the U.S.A.

Whether a discovery or invention becomes popularly known and replicated is separate from its initial occurrence.

The Roman Republic had all the theories in place to launch the Industrial Revolution, but it never happened. China invented gunpowder and eyeglasses, but gun manufacturing and optometry never became industries in that nation.

The book, Guns, Germs and Steel, explains why.


28 posted on 05/25/2013 1:59:41 PM PDT by SatinDoll (NATURAL BORN CITZEN: BORN IN THE USA OF CITIZEN PARENTS.)
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To: SunkenCiv

The first guy caught in a winter storm must be the guy who invented clothes.


29 posted on 05/25/2013 2:05:47 PM PDT by ex-snook (God is Love)
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To: Sherman Logan

The historical growth rates I use, already reflect that, it’s got the plague, the dark ages, the wars, etc built in. I just don’t buy that mankind was around 100,000 years and maintained small numbers for the first 95,000.

Just look at the documented growth rates of the last 5000 years. Or any 1000 years and you’ll see what I mean.

And some archeological finds would have us believe that modern humans were around much longer than that.


30 posted on 05/25/2013 2:43:07 PM PDT by DannyTN
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To: DannyTN
I just don’t buy that mankind was around 100,000 years and maintained small numbers for the first 95,000.

I don't think anybody claims 95,000. More like 10,000.

That's about when agriculture started to develop. Prior to the production of food, human populations were drastically limited by the carrying capacity of a hunter-gatherer lifestyle, which was very low. Humans being the ultimate apex predator, they required huge tracts of land. Tigers also have never been dense on the ground.

Just finished a book about the Yanomamo of the Amazon. They are sparsely settled over their territory, mostly because they constantly raid and kill each other.

I suspect this was the norm of human history prior to the development of agriculture and government, the two institutions that allowed dense populations to develop.

31 posted on 05/25/2013 3:03:24 PM PDT by Sherman Logan
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To: SunkenCiv; a fool in paradise
Who invented clothes?

Is that a trick question? Because the answer is too easy: a nekkid man!

32 posted on 05/25/2013 3:04:49 PM PDT by Revolting cat! (Bad things are wrong! Ice cream is delicious!)
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To: NELSON111

Bingo


33 posted on 05/25/2013 3:06:03 PM PDT by bmwcyle (People who do not study history are destine to believe really ignorant statements.)
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To: SunkenCiv
This was answered a few years ago by studying lice. You see, apes only have one species of lice, but humans have two: The hair louse, and the body louse. The body louse cannot live in human head hair, and needs clothing to survive. Scientists think at one time these two different species were one, but split when humans started wearing clothing.

Study of lice DNA shows humans first wore clothes 170,000 years ago

34 posted on 05/25/2013 3:23:39 PM PDT by Alas Babylon!
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To: Revolting cat!
Who invented clothes?

>> Is that a trick question? Because the answer is too easy: a nekkid man!

When did the first transvestite realize that he was "born that way"? And was his mama surprised to discover that he came miswrapped upon delivery???

35 posted on 05/25/2013 3:35:46 PM PDT by a fool in paradise (America 2013 - STUCK ON STUPID)
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To: DannyTN
One of the ways it is known when people first started wearing clothes comes from studying the genetic diversity of lice. 100-120K years ago is the genetic convergence point for the three species of head, body, and pubic lice.

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36 posted on 05/25/2013 3:56:59 PM PDT by LonePalm (Commander and Chef)
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To: BykrBayb

Barney Rubble was a great actor.


37 posted on 05/25/2013 5:35:40 PM PDT by central_va (I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn.)
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To: DannyTN
I just don’t buy that mankind was around 100,000 years and maintained small numbers for the first 95,000.

I hear tell that an eruption of the supervolcano Toba came close to extinguishing the human race about 70,000 years ago. If true, that would have been pretty much a start-over point.

38 posted on 05/25/2013 6:49:14 PM PDT by Max in Utah (A nation can survive its fools, and even the ambitious. But it cannot survive treason from within.)
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To: central_va

Actor? What are you suggesting?


39 posted on 05/25/2013 8:48:07 PM PDT by BykrBayb (Somewhere, my flower is there. ~ Þ)
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To: Alas Babylon!

Thanks Alas Babylon!.
40 posted on 05/25/2013 9:58:38 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (Romney would have been worse, if you're a dumb ass.)
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