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Biggest extinction in history caused by climate-changing meteor
phys.org ^ | 8-1-2013

Posted on 08/05/2013 8:34:44 AM PDT by Renfield

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To: Renfield

How do we know a Jarassic Manhattan Project didn’t just backfire?

Dinosaurs with nukes...oops!

Rodney McKay blew up 5/6ths of a solar system thinking he was so smart.


41 posted on 08/05/2013 12:09:29 PM PDT by hattend (Firearms and ammunition...the only growing industries under the Obama regime.)
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To: fwdude

Just as liberalism is the political expression of the religion of Humanism, based on the idea of “you will be as gods knowing good and evil”,

conservatism is the political expression of the Judeo-Christian worldview based on objective biblical truths.


42 posted on 08/05/2013 12:11:37 PM PDT by MrB (The difference between a Humanist and a Satanist - the latter admits whom he's working for)
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To: fwdude
Conservatism touches on politics, but it is a much more comprehensive world view than that.

Did we elect you to be the arbiter of what is and is not conservative?

It has been demonstrated that light has been slowing down.

No it certainly has not. There are people that have claimed such but there isn't any actual verifiable proof.

The methods used to measure decay are blatantly faulty. They just are. Ask 20 scientists to assess the age of a rock, and you'll get 20 wildly different answers.

This is false. Decay dating is imperfect but still accurate to an overwheming degree. If you were to ask 20 scientists to access the age of a single rock you would get answers that varied very little if at all. This is why it is accepted scientifically, because it is reproducible. The largest problem with radiological testing depends on the initial concentration of the element that is being tested. While this of can be a variable in certain cases, generally speaking these levels are fairly constant. E

To put it another way, my watch is a fairly accurate time keeping device, but it is not exactly precise. While one could claim that I can never tell the time of the day accurately because my watch loses 50 milliseconds a day (as an example) the truth of the matter is that I can tell time well enough that I'm usually accurate to the minute.

43 posted on 08/05/2013 12:29:34 PM PDT by Durus (You can avoid reality, but you cannot avoid the consequences of avoiding reality. Ayn Rand)
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To: Durus

All lies. You are hardly conservative. And yes, I am the arbiter in this case.


44 posted on 08/05/2013 12:31:34 PM PDT by fwdude ( You cannot compromise with that which you must defeat.)
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To: fwdude
"All lies"

I guess you missed the class in reasonable and rational discussion as well missing science 101, chemistry and physics.

"You are hardly conservative".

I'm certainly not your brand of conservative and I'm proud of it. If you are for the constitution (both textual and historical understanding) and are pro-life than I can look past your "eccentricity".

"And yes, I am the arbiter in this case.

Ignorance and arrogance are a deadly combination.

45 posted on 08/05/2013 12:55:01 PM PDT by Durus (You can avoid reality, but you cannot avoid the consequences of avoiding reality. Ayn Rand)
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To: Renfield

A different view of how it might have gone:

http://www.threeimpacts-twoevents.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/05/Geologic-Sensemaking-Simultaneous-Impacts-10May2013.pdf


46 posted on 08/05/2013 1:08:33 PM PDT by mj81
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“Dr Tohver believes the explosion of methane released into the atmosphere would have resulted in instant global warming, making things too hot for much of the planet’s animal life.”

And the trillions of tons of dust thrown up wouldn’t have caused massive global cooling orders of magnitude worse than what is known to have happened after Krakatoa?


47 posted on 08/05/2013 2:16:05 PM PDT by catnipman (Cat Nipman: Vote Republican in 2012 and only be called racist one more time!)
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To: Claud

besides volcanos, water is the most destructive force in the world, it can move earth, rocks, you name it. I’d say the possibilities are pretty good a lot of water can do quite a bit of things we might not be aware of, considering especially the entire globe was covered in it.


48 posted on 08/05/2013 9:07:38 PM PDT by Bulwyf
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To: Renfield; 75thOVI; agrace; aimhigh; Alice in Wonderland; AndrewC; aragorn; aristotleman; ...

Thanks Renfield.


49 posted on 08/06/2013 4:53:09 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (It's no coincidence that some "conservatives" echo the hard left.)
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To: StayAt HomeMother; Ernest_at_the_Beach; decimon; 1010RD; 21twelve; 24Karet; 2ndDivisionVet; ...

Thanks Renfield.

50 posted on 08/06/2013 4:53:29 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (It's no coincidence that some "conservatives" echo the hard left.)
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To: BwanaNdege

Hey! I remember that car! LOL!


51 posted on 08/06/2013 4:57:27 PM PDT by Monkey Face ( Is it 2017, yet?)
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To: absolootezer0

You have to admit that anyone inventing sexual reproduction would have an awesome sense of humour.


52 posted on 08/06/2013 5:00:15 PM PDT by Squawk 8888 (I'd give up chocolate but I'm no quitter)
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To: The_Victor
I have always wondered what the definition of "night" and "day" are prior to the creation of the sun on "day" 4.

It's interesting that on day 4 God made two "lights"--it doesn't say God made two heavenly bodies.

Perhaps the sun was already made, and day existed but in a very diffused way through a perpetually overcast sky (as on Venus). Day 4 may be referring to the oxygenation/clarification of the atmosphere allowing an earthly observer to actually see the lights in the firmament.

That's one theory anyway. :)

53 posted on 08/06/2013 5:13:24 PM PDT by Claud
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To: Renfield
Just how much history was being written 66 million years ago? Were there scribes or was it a computerizeđ records thing? How did people who write these articles get access to those data files?
54 posted on 08/06/2013 5:34:27 PM PDT by ThanhPhero (Khách sang La Vang hanh huong tham vieng Maria)
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To: qam1

Foraminifera.


55 posted on 08/06/2013 7:31:17 PM PDT by null and void (Republicans create the tools of oppression, and the democrats gleefully use them!)
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To: Durus

New tagline!


56 posted on 08/06/2013 7:33:44 PM PDT by null and void ( Ignorance and arrogance are a deadly combination.)
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To: null and void

Dinoflagellates


57 posted on 08/06/2013 8:33:16 PM PDT by qam1 (There's been a huge party. All plates and the bottles are empty, all that's left is the bill to pay)
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Look at the populations of foraminifera before and after the K-T boundary.

Thousands of varieties and untold billions of individuals right up to the iridium clay marker, then total wipe out.

Every ocean on earth abruptly lost essentially all of its plankton in the blink of an eye.

This is a much clearer indication of a global disaster than the remains of a few thousand dinosaurs spread out over a 100+ million year's worth of layer after layer of sedimentary rock.

The "hardasaur" date that you cited was dated by the U-Pb technique. It measures the ratios of uranium and the decay product lead in the fossil. The uranium isn't in the animal's bones when it dies, but leaches in over time as part of the fossil mineralization process.

Usually this process is complete in a few thousand years.

Usually.

If the bones aren't exposed to liquid water the process of leaching minerals into the bones goes on hold. For how long? Until liquid water returns. In an Atacama type desert that could be millennia. Even in the presence of occasional rain the bones could be kept dry by overburden, nor is Dr Heaman immune to a 1% error in his dating technique.

Perhaps Dr Heaman is correct, perhaps a few pockets of undamaged land held some survivors and they were able to eek out a living for a while. That doesn't change the BIG picture of a mass extinction.

Or perhaps the test was skewed by modern uranium contamination? The fossils are from New Mexico, and a goodly fraction of the southwest was contaminated with fallout from hundreds of above ground A-Bomb tests and "venting" of below ground tests back when I was a kid.

More than one prospector thought they'd struck the mother load of uranium ore after those tests...

58 posted on 08/06/2013 10:01:59 PM PDT by null and void ( Ignorance and arrogance are a deadly combination.)
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To: Bulwyf

I presume you are being sarcastic. Even Peter said that to God a day is a thousand years and a thousand years is like a day.(2Peter 3 8).


59 posted on 08/06/2013 10:35:13 PM PDT by LadyDoc (liberals only love politically correct poor people)
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fwdude to renfield, post #4: "Deep time is a lie. That so many supposed conservatives believe this is pathetic.
There is no hard evidence to confirm deep time (millions of years.)"

fwdude to Jim Red, post #38: "The methods used to measure decay are blatantly faulty. They just are.
Ask 20 scientists to assess the age of a rock, and you'll get 20 wildly different answers.
There is very little science involved in an evolutionary position of creation."

fwdude to Durus, post #44: "All lies. You are hardly conservative.
And yes, I am the arbiter in this case."

Sure, fwdude is arbiter of his own personal opinions, to which he is entitled.
But if fwdude is going to reject some of science because it conflicts with his religious beliefs, then he should reject all of science, since it all results from the same methodological naturalism.

Da Cayote to fwdude: "Please step away from the computer..."

fwdude should step away from any and all scientific technology, including his computer, vehicles, electric lights and, while we're on the subject: his clothes and the food he eats.

You know, the stone age didn't end because we ran out of stones.
There are still plenty of them out there, and fwdude can go back to living that way any time he wants.

60 posted on 08/07/2013 12:10:23 AM PDT by BroJoeK (a little historical perspective....)
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