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Ice ages: Why North America is key to their coming and going
Christian Science Monitor ^
| August 7, 2013
| Pete Spotts
Posted on 08/11/2013 6:07:09 AM PDT by SunkenCiv
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08/11/2013 6:07:09 AM PDT
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SunkenCiv
To: StayAt HomeMother; Ernest_at_the_Beach; decimon; 1010RD; 21twelve; 24Karet; 2ndDivisionVet; ...
Thanks Renfield.
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posted on
08/11/2013 6:08:42 AM PDT
by
SunkenCiv
(It's no coincidence that some "conservatives" echo the hard left.)
To: Renfield; 75thOVI; agrace; aimhigh; Alice in Wonderland; AndrewC; aragorn; aristotleman; ...
Thanks Renfield, another uniformitarian dead-end, and probably an AGW agenda.
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posted on
08/11/2013 6:08:44 AM PDT
by
SunkenCiv
(It's no coincidence that some "conservatives" echo the hard left.)
To: SunkenCiv
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posted on
08/11/2013 6:10:28 AM PDT
by
bagadonutz
(knuckledragger)
To: SunkenCiv
The study reaffirms that changes in the amount of summer sunlight striking northern high latitudes sets the process in motion. HA! They are asking us to believe that the sun actually has some sort of impact on our weather??? Everyone knows this is not the case. The only thing that ever affects the weather is man's release of CO2
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posted on
08/11/2013 6:12:30 AM PDT
by
ClearCase_guy
(21st century. I'm not a fan.)
To: SunkenCiv
Ice ages: Why North America is key to their coming and going
The solution to the problem is obvious: destroy North America, or at least, Canada. ;)
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posted on
08/11/2013 6:24:36 AM PDT
by
adorno
(Y)
To: ClearCase_guy
Yeah, who would even suppose the little ball of fire up there in the sky would have any affect on the temperatures on the planet...no, let’s seek a reason for climate change which we cannot see or measure.
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posted on
08/11/2013 6:25:37 AM PDT
by
Mouton
(108th MI Group.....68-71)
To: SunkenCiv
...changes in Earth's orbit. Really?
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posted on
08/11/2013 6:25:58 AM PDT
by
CPOSharky
((The government way) If it ain't broke, fix it till it is.)
To: ClearCase_guy
Yeah this guy's nuts. Where did he get the idea that the furnace in the sky might have anything at all to do with climate change. Everybody that knows anything knows that climate change is man caused./s
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posted on
08/11/2013 6:31:09 AM PDT
by
D Rider
To: CPOSharky
It's the oscillation of the orbit that really confuses me. Maybe --
maybe -- ice sheets could perturb our orbit. But once the ice sheets disappear, would the orbit "spring back" to it's original path? And could that be done repeatedly over many thousands of years?
I'm thinking that a law of Thermodynamics is being violated here with orbital paths oscillating despite no energy change being recorded.
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posted on
08/11/2013 6:31:57 AM PDT
by
ClearCase_guy
(21st century. I'm not a fan.)
To: SunkenCiv
They need to add increased volcanic activity, and its related effects, into their simulations. They might be surprised how much effect that alone would have.
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posted on
08/11/2013 6:42:21 AM PDT
by
Errant
To: SunkenCiv
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posted on
08/11/2013 6:48:23 AM PDT
by
central_va
(I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn.)
To: adorno
“again and again/they promise the moon/they’re always coming and going and going and coming.”
Professor Von Schtup
To: ClearCase_guy; CPOSharky
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posted on
08/11/2013 7:06:38 AM PDT
by
Lonesome in Massachussets
(Doing the same thing and expecting different results is called software engineering.)
To: ClearCase_guy
... and cow farts, dontchaknow.
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08/11/2013 7:11:15 AM PDT
by
MHGinTN
(Being deceived can be cured.)
To: central_va
Canadas fault That's okay, we've got big shoulders, we can take it.
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08/11/2013 7:19:42 AM PDT
by
Dartman
(Mubarak and Gaddafi are going to look like choirboys when this is over)
To: SunkenCiv
While carbon dioxide decreased as the ice sheet expanded and cooled the climate and increased again as the climate warmed, CO2 levels did not determine the overall sequence of events during each 100,000-year cycle, the researchers concluded. Paging Algore. Paging Algore. Please pick up the white phone in the lobby.
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posted on
08/11/2013 7:30:27 AM PDT
by
Rocky
(Obama is pure evil.)
To: Lonesome in Massachussets
I’m OK with orbits which are essentially eccentric. Up until Kepler, the orbits were expected to be perfect circles. Then Kepler showed that they were elliptical. Then we found out they were basically elliptical, but eccentric.
It just seems to me — and maybe I’m wrong — that if ice buildup were to increase the eccentricity, I do not see how a return to relative stability would be achieved. I would expect greater and greater degrees of eccentricity.
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08/11/2013 7:56:18 AM PDT
by
ClearCase_guy
(21st century. I'm not a fan.)
To: ClearCase_guy
It goes hand in hand with ice shelves calving. The weight of the ice forces the shelf farther and farther out to sea. The ice flows. Eventually simple strength of materials tell us that the shelf is going to break off. I’m always amazed at the doomsayers who seem to think it should continue to the equator.
Ice on land is different but the same. The sheer weight forces it to flow. Eventually another force, temperature, is going to prevent the ice from covering the globe. It might be interesting for scientists to study what affect the increase in freshwater runoff has on climate.
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08/11/2013 8:03:38 AM PDT
by
meatloaf
To: SunkenCiv
I found the article to be a bit confusing. Are the changes in orbit because of the weight of the ice sheet, or does the ice sheet just melt faster due to the changes in orbit, aided by its gargantuan weight?
Other than that, the climate warmed all by itself? No man made intervention??? Shocking!
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posted on
08/11/2013 8:11:00 AM PDT
by
Explorer89
(And now, let the wild rumpus start!!)
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