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Did famine worsen the Black Death?
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| January 5, 2016
| Alvin Powell
Posted on 01/07/2016 11:22:02 PM PST by SunkenCiv
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01/07/2016 11:22:03 PM PST
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SunkenCiv
To: SunkenCiv
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01/07/2016 11:49:24 PM PST
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stormer
To: stormer
I haven’t trusted Gerbils since he worked for Hitler.
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01/07/2016 11:52:22 PM PST
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SunkenCiv
(Here's to the day the forensics people scrape what's left of Putin off the ceiling of his limo.)
To: SunkenCiv
A more conventional interpretation is that the Black Death caused famine, by killing off enough of the farmers to harm the harvest. That interpretation also suggests that the shortage of harvesters made them a valuable, hire-able commodity and freed them from peasantry. The economic consequences for 14th-century Europe were huge, and the Renaissance may well have owed some of its energy to the disaster.
It is likely that both were the case - disease does, after all, spread more easily through a malnourished population. This sort of thing is never cut-and-dried. A similar effect was brought about in the 17th century by the Thirty Years' War, which had a similar mortality among the farming population. Suddenly food cost a lot of money. When that happens, things change.
To: Billthedrill
The Little Ice Age harmed the ability to grow enough food, putting downward pressure on family size and undermined the feudal order; the Black Death comprehensively shattered the feudal order.
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01/08/2016 12:16:27 AM PST
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SunkenCiv
(Here's to the day the forensics people scrape what's left of Putin off the ceiling of his limo.)
To: Billthedrill
I have read one analysis that suggests that due to the surplus of textiles caused by so many deaths, one consequence was that people began replacing their flax clothing before it was completely useless. This allowed for the recycling of discarded clothing into less expensive and larger scale paper manufacturing that pressured the printing industry to greater efficiency, spurring the development of moveable type printing. That allowed for the inexpensive manufacturing of books that resulted in a literacy boom, and its liberating and democratizing influence.
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01/08/2016 12:29:19 AM PST
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stormer
To: SunkenCiv
Heinrich Bimmler was a real bastage too.
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01/08/2016 3:05:57 AM PST
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Flag_This
(You can't spell "treason" without the "O".)
To: Flag_This
I don’t like the sound of these boncentration bamps!
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01/08/2016 4:07:43 AM PST
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SunkenCiv
(Here's to the day the forensics people scrape what's left of Putin off the ceiling of his limo.)
To: SunkenCiv
You wouldn’t have had much fun in Stalingrad, would you?
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01/08/2016 4:11:04 AM PST
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Flag_This
(You can't spell "treason" without the "O".)
To: SunkenCiv
There is a good book “Justinians Flea” which explores how the Plague came to Byzantium brought by grain ships from Egypt. Devastated their population.
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01/08/2016 4:12:45 AM PST
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Jimmy Valentine
(DemocRATS - when they speak, they lie; when they are silent, they are stealing the American Dream)
To: Billthedrill
There was a similar widespread war, the Hundred Years War, going on in Europe at the time of the Black Death.
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01/08/2016 5:06:41 AM PST
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M1903A1
("We shed all that is good and virtuous for that which is shoddy and sleazy... and call it progress")
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01/08/2016 11:23:41 AM PST
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SunkenCiv
(Here's to the day the forensics people scrape what's left of Putin off the ceiling of his limo.)
To: Jimmy Valentine
Thanks JV, and actually, despite being past the Xmas season, a good one to post...
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01/08/2016 11:31:56 AM PST
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SunkenCiv
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01/08/2016 11:32:52 AM PST
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SunkenCiv
(Here's to the day the forensics people scrape what's left of Putin off the ceiling of his limo.)
To: SunkenCiv
Yup, The Great Famine of 1311 thru 1317. Really Nasty some say the effects continued until 1322 -1327.
To: SunkenCiv
In addition, historical researchers believe that famine in northern Europe before the plague came ashore may have weakened the population there and set the stage for its devastation. Shhh, don't tell anyone but that was at the start of a cold period (little ice age).
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01/08/2016 3:27:21 PM PST
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Mike Darancette
(CA the sanctuary state for stupid.)
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01/08/2016 4:21:27 PM PST
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SunkenCiv
(Here's to the day the forensics people scrape what's left of Putin off the ceiling of his limo.)
To: SunkenCiv
That’s what I was taught 40 years ago.
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01/08/2016 9:25:59 PM PST
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SuzyQue
To: SunkenCiv
well when half the people are sick, who is there to grow crops?
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01/09/2016 10:35:22 AM PST
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Mr. K
(If it is HilLIARy -vs- Jeb! then I am writing-in Palin/Cruz)
To: stormer; Billthedrill
nothing happens in a vacuum, everything effects everything else.
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01/09/2016 10:36:40 AM PST
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Mr. K
(If it is HilLIARy -vs- Jeb! then I am writing-in Palin/Cruz)
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