Posted on 05/28/2018 4:46:20 AM PDT by Caipirabob
Hi Miss Marmelstein. It’s a good point. I just didn’t know any of this about Robinson. Then I dug in a little further and while I don’t agree with what’s taking place in Britain, it was good to become familiar with this man and the details behind his arrest. A lot of people I respect had held their opinions back on this issue and now I think I have a better idea on why. If nothing else, people can build a better argument in his favor knowing the facts that they will inevitably be confronted with.
He’s a very good speaker. The Oxford Union invited him to speak which is amazing to me. It’s available on You Tube. What do I care if he has mortgage trouble, lol?!
I didn't mean to set off a storm here, but I checked it out and I felt we should have all of the facts on this guy.
This is an excellent point.
H, his likeability is NOT the point. :-)
I don’t care if the guy’s a rotter. He should get the same legal protections as anyone else.
The guy was arrrested, tried, convicted, and incarcerated within a 24 hour span.
That’s not due process. It’s a kangaroo court.
Three guesses why the UK doesn’t have a written constitution that protects it’s citizenry from their government.
It’s damn handy.
I have no problem with people knowing his entire background. Of course, that’s when the pallid, weak-wristed people go all wobbly but then most of those people don’t read broadly in history so think it is pencil-pushers who save civilization.
This fight isn't about conservativism, that term has lost all significance over the years. Rather it's a fight over nationalism, sovereignty and the preservation of Western culture. In that regard Tommy Robinson is a leader while Saul Montes-Bradley presents as an unknown academic.
I’ll look at that.
My thoughts are here:
The crimes happen on the fringes of White working-class neighborhoods such as where Tommy lives. This is where the Muslim gangs touch the borders of British working class families.
The middle-class and upper-class families live in isolation away from the lower working class. The conflicts are “over there away from us”. Inside these communities which are 99.9% White, there are no conflicts. The attitude is “don’t bring conflict here” which is skewed to “don’t bring your racism here because we are educated and at peace, and know how to live without conflict whereas you Tommy Robinsons are always in trouble and causing everyone else discomfort because you are uneducated and don’t know how to speak proper upper-crust English.”
British society is cowered to think of holding Muslim criminals accountable because the perception is so great that they will be thought racist by doing so.
The Brits that would ignore the plight of their working-class Tommy Robinsons, these Brits ARE the problem but they won’t allow themselves to think that. They will never allow even the thought they must hold themselves accountable for their acquiescence and dereliction. They think “it has nothing to do with us, it’s all the fault of those Tommy Robinsons”.
Ok, so what to do?
Something simple, something that takes a second or two, that even a Brit coward can do ...
Place “Tommy Robinson Jars” in all British shops everywhere and coax Brits to donate a few pence here and there FOR FREE SPEECH TOMMY.
Rewrite the existing cowardly narrative to “WE ABHOR RACISM BUT WE SUPPORT FREE SPEECH MORE”.
Little by little Brits will ‘acclimate’ to the new narrative. Discussions will break out that one may not ‘like’ the person exercising their right to free speech, but society is better off with honoring free speech than not.
Brits won’t do anything. They are all over Twitter condemning him. No one is going to set up a tip jar for Tommy; Brits don’t tip. I don’t know what it would take to wake them up. We didn’t wake up after 9/11!
I just wish President Trump would cancel his visit there in July. It’ll be nothing but Brits baying in the streets. I was there during Pres. Bush’s state visit and it wasn’t pretty.
Half of the people on FR are bullies too - but that doesn’t make them any less my teammate and ally in the fight of right versus wrong.
I’ll back this Tommy guy even knowing his background. Of the BILLIONS of people affected by the army of Islam he is one of the very few willing to stand up and fight. And for that, I will have his back.
Adam Kokesh is a jerk too. A real treasure for our enemies when they refer to his drug habit, his Jonesian lifestyle and the rest. But still, he confronts our own government and calls them out on their sh!t and for that I’ll defend him.
Speaking of Jonesian lifestyle... Alex Jones. He too has spots in his past. But still I defend this guy to the ends of the world.
> “is likeability is NOT the point.”
His likability is important. The poster of this thread is trying to say otherwise, that he’s not likable.
Likability is very important in politics. In law, not so much. But in politics, to get people woke up, to get them voting for needed changes or changing their viewpoint, likability is critical.
Tommy is extremely likable.
Things have changed since GW Bush. Breit was a turning point. There’s enough of their electorate to effect change.
They are waking up with social media just like the rest of us. But they are slower because they are so controlled, like the Swedes.
It is said that in Chine, a nail sticking up will get hammered down. The same occurs in Britain but at least they have some who push back.
Somehow I doubt that a Jeb Bush type would be able to put up the needed fight - just hard to imagine.
I dropped by his account and let him know I’m blocking him.
Very good points. Yes, the man has a checkered background. I didn’t know the extent and now I do. It will help me focus on the issue at hand and not the man himself when I discuss the matter going forward.
Good move
I keep getting conservatives including him in follow lists
No idea
Heck, Andrew Jackson enlisted the aid of pirate Jean LaFitte to defend New Orleans in the War of 1812.
thx,
will look it up. ‘Pod
Well when Mr Tolerant Saul blocks someone, they cant read what he writes
So he has no impact on how I form my opinions
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