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Hydrogen propulsion shows promise
AOPA ^ | 29 July 2019 | Thomas B Haines

Posted on 07/31/2019 3:57:54 PM PDT by amorphous

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To: amorphous
And we used a lot of it.😁
21 posted on 07/31/2019 4:44:54 PM PDT by rktman ( #My2ndAmend! ----- Enlisted in the Navy in '67 to protect folks rights to strip my rights. WTH?)
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To: ifinnegan

OK, and where are all the filling stations so I can rush right out and buy one and take that cross country trip I have been dreaming of?


22 posted on 07/31/2019 4:46:29 PM PDT by 100American (Knowledge is knowing how, Wisdom is knowing when)
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To: umgud
I’m curious as to the economics regarding cars and small aircraft, hydrogen v good ole fossil fuels?

No need to be curious. The market has made its choice and aircraft turbines burn kerosene - cheap, safe, efficient and a high specific energy density (btus/lb).

23 posted on 07/31/2019 4:48:42 PM PDT by AndyJackson
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To: 100American

“OK, and where are all the filling stations so I can rush right out and buy one and take that cross country trip I have been dreaming of?”

Yeah. There won’t be either unless hydrogen cars sell more.

There are some now, of course, and the time and cost are comparable to gas.

Unlike charging a battery.


24 posted on 07/31/2019 4:51:33 PM PDT by ifinnegan (Democrats kill babies and harvest their organs to sell)
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To: rktman
One heck of a steam engine! :)

Had me wondering what the Saturn V burned. Looks like the upper stages used hydrogen, while the main stage burned kerosene.


25 posted on 07/31/2019 4:53:52 PM PDT by amorphous
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To: ifinnegan

Agree...

Interesting that this was posited in the article as an alternative fuel for Aircraft...

Let that sink in

I understand that it is a viable fuel, but it is also extremely volatile

That’s why we switched from Hydrogen to Helium


26 posted on 07/31/2019 4:54:26 PM PDT by 100American (Knowledge is knowing how, Wisdom is knowing when)
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To: Telepathic Intruder

Not true. Hydrogen boils at -423 F. Because of heat leakage into the tanks there will be a. constant steady conversion of hydrogen liquid to hydrogen gas. So you won’t be able to keep it in an enclosed garage without some sort of venting system. You also won’t be able to leave it while you go on a trip and Expect anything but an empty tank when you get back.


27 posted on 07/31/2019 5:00:01 PM PDT by from occupied ga (Your government is your most dangerous enemy)
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To: umgud
...regarding cars and small aircraft

Most economical, given a better way of storing 'em, would be electrons themselves. Storage capacity of batteries and capacitors are steadily improving.

28 posted on 07/31/2019 5:05:53 PM PDT by amorphous
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To: rktman
That 1% leakage will get ya.

And that is with brand new seals and O-rings in place.

Challenger failed in '86 due to bad O-rings.

29 posted on 07/31/2019 5:12:50 PM PDT by Deaf Smith (When a Texan takes his chances, chances will be taken that's fore sure)
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To: Deaf Smith

On the solid fuel booster joint, not on the external tank which contained the LH2 and LO2.


30 posted on 07/31/2019 5:18:26 PM PDT by rktman ( #My2ndAmend! ----- Enlisted in the Navy in '67 to protect folks rights to strip my rights. WTH?)
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It was still a bad O-ring...that was known at the time before launch.
31 posted on 07/31/2019 5:26:18 PM PDT by Deaf Smith (When a Texan takes his chances, chances will be taken that's fore sure)
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To: amorphous

Hydrogen sure does put rockets in orbit. I am sure it could do the same for cars.


32 posted on 07/31/2019 5:35:53 PM PDT by GingisK
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To: Telepathic Intruder

No, not really. The hydrogen must be under pressure, the gasoline does not.


33 posted on 07/31/2019 5:37:02 PM PDT by GingisK
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To: amorphous; AndyJackson

Thanks


34 posted on 07/31/2019 5:44:12 PM PDT by umgud
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35 posted on 07/31/2019 7:11:38 PM PDT by bitt (US intel is there to protect the safety and security of Americans. It is not a political tool.)
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To: GingisK

:)


36 posted on 07/31/2019 7:13:49 PM PDT by amorphous
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To: amorphous; bitt

You beat me to it right out of the starting gate. :) Still, with the space program and hydrogen fueled cars, I suppose the situation has improved... (NO SMOKING!)
37 posted on 07/31/2019 8:33:50 PM PDT by Bob Ireland (The Democrat Party is a Criminal Enterprise)
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To: Deaf Smith

It was still a bad O-ring...that was known at the time before launch.
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But what really brought down the Shuttle was sheer bad luck. If the burn-thru had happened anywhere in the 270-degree arc facing away from the ET, the Shuttle would have made orbit with no problems, even with the burn-thru.

Only the bad luck that the burn-thru was facing inwards towards the ET and the mounting brace was the problem.


38 posted on 07/31/2019 8:44:13 PM PDT by chaosagent (Remember, no matter how you slice it, forbidden fruit still tastes the sweetest!)
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To: Bob Ireland
NO SMOKING!

Lol, right you are and should be a placard requirement for every side of this machine.

39 posted on 07/31/2019 10:07:12 PM PDT by amorphous
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To: from occupied ga

The leakage is due to the small atomic size of hydrogen, or you would get the same thing with liquid oxygen.


40 posted on 07/31/2019 10:20:58 PM PDT by Telepathic Intruder
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