Posted on 08/16/2019 6:51:03 PM PDT by Morgana
I mean why are you here in this thread arguing for abortion. Not on FR in general.
I am actually pro-life. No one has the right to take an innocent human life. I refer to the writing of Thomas Jefferson and most moral and religious teachings.
You are not “on your own” at birth. Nature gives us two parents, but humans often decide to shirk their responsibilities. If you can hand off the child to another who will accept responsibility, I support that. It’s called adoption.
Women on welfare should be told the next babies on welfare will not be supported. More enforcement of paternal responsibility is needed.
It’s not my responsibility to raise your child. You have no right to expect me to do so, but it is everyone’s responsibility to support human right to life, as a foundational right in our world and one of the moral underpinnings of a civilized society..
I already explained that I hate abortion.
I was simply trying to make the point that making it illegal, even if it’s not illegal everywhere, will not stop it.
I still strongly sense that few who oppose abortion genuinely care about these babies, especially if they’re born to young, impoverished, single, and minority women.
The contempt for these women runs deep among abortion opponents; it always has. Because they’re powerless and despised they become the target for all sorts of primal emotions that the abortion issue drags up.
I really wish I saw more compassion from abortion opponents but, to be honest, the usual response I see is a mixture of anger, mockery, and dismissal.
And you know what, most other people seem to see that, too.
US society is based on freedom. many believe that leads to crimes. Of course we could eliminate our freedoms and reduce crime somewhat, but we choose not to.
A woman can wrongly take that innocent human life as she chooses and as they did in the past and some people choose to commit murder or rob and rape. That doesn’t mean we get rid of all of those laws prohibiting all of those crimes.
If you agree that life is a fundamental of our society and human civilization, why wouldn’t it be illegal to take an innocent one? We either believe in the right and protect it or we don’t.
Lastly, for a woman to commit murder rather than put the baby up for adoption is inexplicable. Even abandoning the baby on a church or house doorstep would be preferable.
If abortion is murder, shouldn’t we send these women to prison, maybe even execute them?
depends on the mitigating circumstances, prior record, as in all crimes.
Maybe a new type of manslaughter, abortion.
I leave it to legal minds. What was the punishment before? Illegal to pay for and perform also.
Wow. Those who think young people make foolish decisions are mean!
\LOL! Well it’s just a fact of life that they do.
I just want society to balance “be fruitful and multiply” with “kill your baby and buy more stuff”.
A more reasonable person would say have children but be sure you can care for them.
You don’t have to be barefoot and pregnant to prove to some numbskull that you’re not some selfish witch.
The misogyny on this thread is rich, especially the kind that comes from other women. Which it seems to half the time.
Please point out examples of misogyny on this thread so we can purge our discussions of this terrible practice.
There was no punishment for the woman before Roe v Wade, only for those who performed them. And the sentences were not long.
But I’m sure many would like to see stiffer punishments imposed in future, and against women, too.
Then you’d like to see a quarter of all women in jail? Because that’s about how many have had abortions. Many of them are probably women in your own family.
And don’t bother to ask me where that figure comes from because you’ll dismiss it no matter who came up with it.
One more When someone contracts for a murder both parties violate the law. The contractor and the actual killer.
If I ask a doctor to take that human life inside of me then we are both guilty.
The practice before Roe reminds me of the bribe crimes where the briber (example Charles keating)) goes to prison but the people receiving the bribe fo not (McCain and Cranston for example). Some crimes by their nature involve at least two people.
“Misogyny” is so comfortable for you.
That’s nice
Doesn’t help the girls, but it makes you feel good.
You assume the crime rate would be as high as the current abortion rate. In my opinion that is a false illogical assumption.
I don’t challenge the number. I know there are way too many abortions
Are you working on a response to my 51. I’m tiring out.
I just read your rationalizations on this thread. They’re disgusting.
So let’s send all these women to jail? Right?
Because if you say no, you’re just contradicting yourself.
BTW no woman in my family or my two wives has had an abortion. If they did, my position would be the same. This is not a new issue to me and i have given it a lot of thought since Roe.
My step-daughter had a baby when she was 16 and she and her mother found a family at church to adopt the boy because they believe it is wrong and immoral to take an innocent human life. A decision they are still happy about 24 years later.
Looks comfortable to you, too.
I’m not the one with “dumb sluts” in my tagline.
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