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Flubros and Flubras! Day 45 (a place for Flubros and Flubras)
Www.freerepublic.com ^ | 3 May 2020 | Impimp

Posted on 05/03/2020 5:07:19 AM PDT by impimp

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To: DannyTN

Let me clearly crystallize this for you. Please answer directly

1. Do YOU believe that the government has the unilateral right to SUSPEND constitutional rights without due process

2. Do YOU believe that the government should be allowed to arrest people for crimes that were not legislated into law (Lightfoot, newsome)

3. Do YOU believe that Americans cannot make the best decision for themselves and family without government mandates compliance

I don’t want to hear examples of when these things happened historically. I want you and the Fearpers to tell is exactly what your opinions are. Don’t hide behind bullshit. Tell us YOUR opinion


161 posted on 05/03/2020 8:23:00 AM PDT by gas_dr (Trial lawyers AND POLITICIANS are Endangering Every Patient in America: INCLUDING THEIR LIBERTIES)
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To: livius

Exactly so.


162 posted on 05/03/2020 8:24:04 AM PDT by gogeo (It isn't just time to open America up again: It's time to be America again.)
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To: gas_dr; DannyTN

Doc, I believe what we have here is what they call an ‘influencer.’


163 posted on 05/03/2020 8:31:45 AM PDT by gogeo (It isn't just time to open America up again: It's time to be America again.)
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To: romanesq

https://youtu.be/mbAG0Hl1fB0?t=2046

Piss be upon Flubro Glenn Hartman, former VP of Maga Coalition, aborted grifter Trump Super Pac now grifter "media company"????

Why didn't you tell me, Roman Walter?  Things were lookin' kinda skimpy. I thought we wuz buds? :(

https://www.freerepublic.com/focus/chat/3840801/posts?page=315#315

164 posted on 05/03/2020 8:31:59 AM PDT by haffast (Double Standards Exist. Freedom of Speech. Patriots are Dying. Woke is hard. Anons Know.)
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To: ConservativeInPA
Bros, this is not a mistake. I was told our Founding Fathers explicitly wrote in the US Constitution, ", except when there is a virus." Now, while I haven't had a chance to look it up, I trust all the governors that think it is so.

Correct. The virus clause comes right after the one which grants the unalienable right to kill inconvenient babies.

165 posted on 05/03/2020 8:42:26 AM PDT by Fresh Wind (This tagline is an advertisement-free zone. Is yours?)
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To: gas_dr
"1. Do YOU believe that the government has the unilateral right to SUSPEND constitutional rights without due process"

"Without due process", no. But there are emergency laws on the books of Federal and most states, which do give due process. There's no doubt been some overreach. And probably a lot of laws need to be revised or updated, both to allow for pandemic responses and to properly limit those responses.

Courts seem to be responding to challenges well. There's a couple of controversial decisions, but what's new. Congress "should" clarify anything controversial going forward.

2. Do YOU believe that the government should be allowed to arrest people for crimes that were not legislated into law (Lightfoot, newsome)

No, but again if laws exist giving emergency powers, then those crimes may have been indirectly legislated. Those arrests no doubt will be challenged in court. We will see if their was sufficient legislation to back them.

3. Do YOU believe that Americans cannot make the best decision for themselves and family without government mandates compliance

I believe "most" Americans can make good decisions for themselves and family and community. But clearly not all Americans can do so. So I do support government mandates where public health is threatened by the actions of a few.

After all, if ALL Americans made good decisions, we wouldn't need criminal law at all.

166 posted on 05/03/2020 8:51:35 AM PDT by DannyTN
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To: impimp

Obviously, Obama knows this is political nonsense.

167 posted on 05/03/2020 8:52:32 AM PDT by CodeToad (Arm Up! They Have!)
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To: gas_dr

The globalists have a ‘honey to do’ list, and the coronavirus was the PERFECT cover to implement their agenda.


168 posted on 05/03/2020 8:55:12 AM PDT by who knows what evil? (Yehovah saved more animals than people on the ark...siameserescue.org)
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To: who knows what evil?

They certainly did not let this pandemic go to waste.


169 posted on 05/03/2020 8:57:23 AM PDT by BradyLS (DO NOT FEED THE BEARS!)
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To: Mom MD

Yup. I know a nurse who works in a (well run) nursing home. Internal flu lockdowns have been standard operating procedure there for many years.


170 posted on 05/03/2020 8:57:50 AM PDT by Buckeye McFrog (Patrick Henry would have been an anti-vaxxer)
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To: impimp

I think you’re mostly right.
in the US (except maybe NYC) hospitals didn’t get overwhelmed.
I don’t blame governors for stay-at-home given what was known at the time. It doesn’t look like stay-at-home was needed in most areas,so it’s time to open things up and get back to work.
Here’s one for the seniors:
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I was in a long line at 6:45 a.m. today at the grocery store that opened at 7 for seniors only. A young man came from the parking lot came and tried to cut in at the front of the line, but an old lady beat him back into the parking lot with her cane. He returned and tried to cut in again but an old man punched him in the gut, then kicked him to the ground and rolled him away.

As he approached the line for the 3rd time he said, “If you don’t let me unlock the door, you’ll never get in there.”


171 posted on 05/03/2020 8:58:20 AM PDT by CarolinaReaganFan
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To: CodeToad

Yes. This is how you know that the current pandemic is not serious: because it is not being taken seriously by those who tell you that it must be.


172 posted on 05/03/2020 8:59:19 AM PDT by BradyLS (DO NOT FEED THE BEARS!)
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To: gas_dr
And even where there was overreach relative to the current state of legislation, it's not like there wasn't an elected legislative body in each case that could have taken action to block those overreaches.

That legislatures did not even lodge a protest resolution indicates that there is widespread support for those actions. Not that majority support should be allowed to substitute for legislation, but a pandemic response is different from a totalitarian takeover, even if you can't see the difference.

And again there are courts. Some things like the drive in worship services have been successfully challenged in courts. Other actions have been upheld.

We'll see how it all plays out.

I hope the laws are updated to both allow pandemic responses and to limit overreach. Of course I'm still waiting for even a single state to legislate action to verify the eligibility of Presidential candidates.

173 posted on 05/03/2020 9:00:07 AM PDT by DannyTN
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To: BradyLS
Exactly. Not even Fauci wears a mask.


174 posted on 05/03/2020 9:02:59 AM PDT by CodeToad (Arm Up! They Have!)
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To: DannyTN

RE: I’d like to find a site that has graphs of daily new cases by state and/or county. If anyone knows of such a site, please let me know.
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Worldometer has started adding charts,graphs and county info to the state level data
NJ,Pa,Fla,Tex,La,Ohio are there now
If a state name is a link in the spreadsheet, then there’s lower level data
https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/country/us/


175 posted on 05/03/2020 9:04:10 AM PDT by CarolinaReaganFan
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To: BradyLS

G-d forbid!


176 posted on 05/03/2020 9:06:53 AM PDT by who knows what evil? (Yehovah saved more animals than people on the ark...siameserescue.org)
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To: CarolinaReaganFan

Oh good. Thanks. I knew Worldometers said they were going to have state level pages, but didn’t realize they had started yet.


177 posted on 05/03/2020 9:07:03 AM PDT by DannyTN
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To: BradyLS

Well said!


178 posted on 05/03/2020 9:09:41 AM PDT by kosciusko51
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To: CarolinaReaganFan

My laugh out loud for the day. Thanks for posting.


179 posted on 05/03/2020 9:12:10 AM PDT by mountainfolk
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To: romanesq
Where do you get your ideas from?

Mmmh.....maybe “Senator D. Drunkwich”

https://twitter.com/NewYorkCityGuns/status/1256013696935047169?ref_src=twsrc%5Egoogle%7Ctwcamp%5Eserp%7Ctwgr%5Etweet

#moreBOOMscoming4u #wearethenews #NOTMSM #youllfindout

180 posted on 05/03/2020 9:39:07 AM PDT by haffast (Double Standards Exist. Freedom of Speech. Patriots are Dying. Woke is hard. Anons Know.)
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