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Neanderthals of Western Mediterranean did not become extinct because of changes in climate
EurekAlert! ^ | July 20, 2020 | Universita di Bologna

Posted on 07/25/2020 10:46:22 AM PDT by SunkenCiv

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Caves reveal clues to UK weather
by Tom Heap
Saturday, December 2, 2000
At Pooles Cavern in Derbyshire, it was discovered that the stalagmites grow faster in the winter months when it rains more. Alan Walker, who guides visitors through the caves, says the changes in rainfall are recorded in the stalactites and stalagmites like the growth rings in trees. Stalagmites from a number of caves have now been analysed by Dr Andy Baker at Newcastle University. After splitting and polishing the rock, he can measure its growth precisely and has built up a precipitation history going back thousands of years. His study suggests this autumn's rainfall is not at all unusual when looked at over such a timescale but is well within historic variations. He believes politicians find it expedient to blame a man-made change in our weather rather than addressing the complex scientific picture.

(I like that closing sentence -- "future decision-making could be made based on scientific data and not on political expediency". I wouldn't count on it, but that would be great.)
Disaster that struck the ancients
Professor Fekri Hassan, from University College London, UK, wanted to solve the mystery, by gathering together scientific clues. His inspiration was the little known tomb in southern Egypt of a regional governor, Ankhtifi. The hieroglyphs there reported "all of Upper Egypt was dying of hunger to such a degree that everyone had come to eating their children". Dismissed as exaggeration and fantasy by most other Egyptologists, Fekri was determined to prove the writings were true and accurate. He also had to find a culprit capable of producing such misery. He studied the meticulous records, kept since the 7th Century, of Nile floods. He was amazed to see that there was a huge variation in the size of the annual Nile floods - the floods that were vital for irrigating the land. But no records existed for 2,200BC. Then came a breakthrough - a new discovery in the hills of neighbouring Israel. Mira Bar-Matthews of the Geological Survey of Israel had found a unique record of past climates, locked in the stalactites and stalagmites of a cave near Tel Aviv. What they show is a sudden and dramatic drop in rainfall, by 20%. It is the largest climate event in 5,000 years. And the date? 2,200 BC.
4,000-year-old planned community unearthed
Oct 13 2000
"'Evidently, the conception of what was urban in 2500 to 2000 B.C. was not all that different from what is considered urban today,' said Guillermo Algaze, an associate professor of anthropology at the University of California, San Diego, who has been directing the excavation of Titris Hoyuk, a 125-acre walled urban site in the Euphrates River Basin in southeastern Turkey that flourished for a brief time in the third millennium Bronze Age. In its heyday, Titris had about 10,000 residents. Titris was a failure as a city and as a civilization, rising and falling within a 300 year period, never again to be reoccupied. But, said Algaze, Titrus's failure -- probably due to a shifting in trade routes -- is also the key to its appeal to modern archaeologists."
Tuba
Oct 13 2000
"The women in the tomb were highly ornamented. The ibex (goat above) was made of lapis lazuli which was available only in Afghanistan at the time. Evidence amassed thus far by Schwartz and Curvers indicates that Tubaarose as a political and economic center around 2500 BC, with a population of 5,000 to 7,500 people. The city, which was on a major east-west trade route that connected the Mediterranean coast with upper Mesopotamia, collapsed and was abandoned around 2100 BC possibly due to drought, only to resurrect itself as the primary urban center of the Jabbul plain until around 1200 BC."

1 posted on 07/25/2020 10:46:22 AM PDT by SunkenCiv
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KEYWORDS: neandertal; neandertals; neanderthal; neanderthals
The Neandertal Enigma
by James Shreeve

in local libraries
"Frayer's own reading of the record reveals a number of overlooked traits that clearly and specifically link the Neandertals to the Cro-Magnons. One such trait is the shape of the opening of the nerve canal in the lower jaw, a spot where dentists often give a pain-blocking injection. In many Neandertal, the upper portion of the opening is covered by a broad bony ridge, a curious feature also carried by a significant number of Cro-Magnons. But none of the alleged 'ancestors of us all' fossils from Africa have it, and it is extremely rare in modern people outside Europe." [pp 126-127]

2 posted on 07/25/2020 10:46:57 AM PDT by SunkenCiv (Imagine an imaginary menagerie manager imagining managing an imaginary menagerie.)
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To: SunkenCiv

It was their lack of access to affordable healthcare


3 posted on 07/25/2020 10:50:32 AM PDT by a fool in paradise (Joe Biden- "First thing I'd do is repeal those Trump tax cuts." (May 4th, 2019))
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To: SunkenCiv

“Turn those machines back on!”


4 posted on 07/25/2020 10:50:56 AM PDT by aynrandfreak (Being a Democrat means never having to say you're sorry)
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To: SunkenCiv

They live in Russia now


5 posted on 07/25/2020 10:51:13 AM PDT by butlerweave
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To: a fool in paradise

Imma take that premise now and write myself a few papers to buy a comfortable retirement.


6 posted on 07/25/2020 10:51:48 AM PDT by a fool in paradise (Joe Biden- "First thing I'd do is repeal those Trump tax cuts." (May 4th, 2019))
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To: SunkenCiv

They wouldn’t wear their maks.


7 posted on 07/25/2020 10:53:38 AM PDT by BradyLS (DO NOT FEED THE BEARS!)
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To: SunkenCiv

Couldn’t hack living in a tough neighborhood, full of Homo Sapiens.


8 posted on 07/25/2020 11:07:08 AM PDT by BeauBo
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I had heard that the interbreeding of Neanderthals with Homo Sapiens caused the Neanderthals to die off.


9 posted on 07/25/2020 11:10:02 AM PDT by Dilbert San Diego
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To: SunkenCiv

Southern Italy
10 posted on 07/25/2020 11:14:53 AM PDT by PIF (They came for me and mine ... now its your turn)
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To: SunkenCiv
Absorbed/bred into the Homo Spaien dominant culture? Neanderthal girls will do in a clinch - any Port in a storm.


11 posted on 07/25/2020 11:15:36 AM PDT by BeauBo
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To: BeauBo

LOL, Chelsea Clinton as a Neanderthal girl.

Who knows, maybe many of us have some recessive genes from distant Neanderthal ancestors.


12 posted on 07/25/2020 11:19:58 AM PDT by Dilbert San Diego
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“Neanderthals of Western Mediterranean did not become extinct because of changes in climate”

Oh yeah? Explain all those fossils of Neanderthal oil plants and SUVs, huh?


13 posted on 07/25/2020 11:21:51 AM PDT by freedumb2003 ("Do not mistake activity for achievement." - John Wooden)
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To: Dilbert San Diego
Brunette Neanderthal Girls:

With a lot of highlights:


14 posted on 07/25/2020 11:25:48 AM PDT by BeauBo
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To: Dilbert San Diego

Most Europeans and Asians have 2-4% Neanderthal/Denisovan DNA. 23 and me will tell you how much. (Ancestry.com won’t... I found out disappointedly...damned Mormons)


15 posted on 07/25/2020 11:27:55 AM PDT by Vaquero ( Don't pick a fight with an old guy. If he is too old to fight, he'll just kill you.)
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To: SunkenCiv

Huh.

Wonder if the ol’ Pelasgians had any connection to Neanderthals or heavily crossbred Neanders and Humans in the Aegean AO?


16 posted on 07/25/2020 11:29:15 AM PDT by Grimmy (equivocation is but the first step along the road to capitulation)
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To: BeauBo

17 posted on 07/25/2020 11:31:14 AM PDT by Vaquero ( Don't pick a fight with an old guy. If he is too old to fight, he'll just kill you.)
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To: Vaquero

Howdy Partner,

Looks like Chelsea out-Neanderthals her dad.


18 posted on 07/25/2020 11:38:25 AM PDT by BeauBo
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To: Dilbert San Diego
It was like putting a drop of ink in a bucket of milk. They got diluted.

And the fact that a child with a homo sapiens sapiens father meant that the homo sapiens neanderthalensis mother and child had a better chance of living would have made them preferred mates leaving the homo sapiens neanderthalensis males out in the cold.

19 posted on 07/25/2020 11:39:20 AM PDT by Harmless Teddy Bear (And lead us not into hysteria, but deliver us from the handwashers. Amen!)
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To: SunkenCiv

It wuz dem giants that done kilt off dose Neanderfallers.


20 posted on 07/25/2020 11:52:30 AM PDT by bunkerhill7 (That`s 464 people per square foot! Is this corrrect?? It's NYC.)
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