Posted on 03/24/2022 5:51:19 AM PDT by Red Badger
/Donald Sutherland
“Not reading this, but last time I checked the range at full load was 100 miles”
Which wouldn’t even get a person out of Denver. I am sure that 100 miles wasn’t uphill in the Colorado mountains, so that range is probably cut considerably.
Flat terrain, big deal. How will it do crossing the mountains?
One of my bosses I worked for long ago, once had a boat, motor and trailer he pulled with a Datsun pickup.
He lived around Lake Okeechobee and so took it to the lake one weekend.
Be backed the rig onto the boat ramp and it pulled the entire thing boat, trailer, truck and him all into the lake................
Stop being rational!!!
For towing, get an F250 or F350
When I see a Ford truck towing a large camper trailer, it is never an F 150.
Grade huh ?
Towing up grade
or down the grade ?
/-)
Even if gas goes back down to $3.50 a gallon (my prediction for a new bottom after $4/gallon gas has trained the masses to be happy with $3.50) I'll spend about $2,400 per year on gas to drive ~200 miles per week. Instead of replacing my current old used pickup with another $10K used pickup like I've done for decades, count buying a $45K EV F-150 as costing a net of $35K. But increase my insurance by $90/month ($1,080 per year) while at the same time no oil changes (twice per year, $60 each, $120 per year). Assume all of the above increases with an inflation rate of 3% (except insurance, it'll go down), and also assume about half of my miles in the EV would be free from my home solar system (if I don't improve my solar system after getting the EV to make it 90%), then the EV and the cost of the solar system would pay for itself on about the 11th or 12th year. Yeah I might have to spend $10K replacing the battery on the 10th year. But if I keep driving used gas trucks I average replacing it every 7 years for about $10K.
All the green energy stuff sucks. I wish I could drill my own natural gas or oil because they're much more efficient. But to use those we have to depend on the gubment, and the Dims are making it clear that they like jacking up our energy costs. At least with solar I can have some control over it -- I can make it efficient for my family from a cost perspective even if I can't make it 100% dependable like fossil fuels.
That's what an EV and solar mean to me. It removes the Dims' ability to limit our freedom through energy costs.
Funny, my wife and I are driving from Manhattan, KS to Trinidad, CO on Sat for my wife to get her mother moved to living assisted while I meet up with my brothers to put in a mile of fence on the family ranch.
There is no way in hell this electric pickup will survive in flyover country.
MFO
This type of hyperbolic car salesmanship negates to mention the fact that the battery is a storage vessel.
It does not create electricity...it stores electricity from another source, almost one hundred percent guaranteed to be produced by gasoline, diesel or coal-fired power plants, with the occasional hydro-facility thrown in.
People are so damned gullible.
But, I guess...they just want to believe.
Never batteries either.
” reliance on increasingly expensive batteries of uncertain life expectancy”
Batteries are getting cheaper each year and lifetimes longer.
Expect 20+ years from newer batteries.
Well, two reasons.
1. I have towed max weight loads and was uncomfortable with the handling. Trailer didn’t have the stabilizer bars, but was a braked trailer.
2. It’s an F-150. My neighbor’s F-250 diesel with the trailer package and his dump trailer are MUCH better suited for real hard labor towing. By comparison, my F-150 is a pavement princess and I know that. The heaviest towing it does is twice a year to get the boat out of the water to service, and then back in the water after service. Otherwise it’s great at pulling my utility trailer with a 2000# max gross, plus the bed full. The F-150 meets my needs, and my neighbor’s F-250 real truck picks up the slack. I keep him full of oak firewood for his generosity.
Imagine towing a cattle hauler with that thing. Yeah…imagine it because that’s as far as it goes.
But EV fan boys are SO a much more intelligent and moral than those of us who say EV’s are extremely limited (most of the EV lovers have never tested their EV’s in the mountains in winter or towed long distances or driven their EV across country nor towed anything ever).
You are correct
Pick up Trucks have become confused with automobiles. In recent lunch conversations there was intense argument over pickup wheels and tires. I thought both were cosmetic and had nothing to do with the utility value of the vehicle. The issue was vanity.
So, perhaps electric pickups will achieve some sort of vanity acceptance among those who don’t need or appreciate a truck
I sold my GMC pickup I owned for 20+ years and 16 years ago bought a Sprinter van. It is a pure Mercede truck down to the bone. It serves me better than my old 6 cylinder straight drive
One of the links discusses a truck model called the Rivian R1T, which is an apparent competitor. Its range under tow is about 150 miles. Big whoop. I suspect that the Ford will likely be comparable.
These are such obvious questions to any sensible car buyer, and anyone buying a truck with the intent to tow things like boats or RVs will be seriously disappointed.
They may show results of their tests, but every variable will be highly controlled. Sure, they may have conducted tow tests up steep grades, and in the heat and cold. But, did they do so with lights on? With the AC on? The heater on? With the stereo on? With windshield wipers on? All of these things must be powered by the same electrical system that powers the vehicle. All should reduce the total range when running.
This is the intent behind EVs in general. The government doesn't want us to going boating, fishing, hunting or camping in the outdoors. They don't want us touring around the country, using resources, and being free. They want us to stay in our designated cities, shunning cars for mass-transit, and going to work in our government-supplied job.
As a happy F-150 owner, I agree wholeheartedly with you.
“, because there is no co-commitment to expand and improve the electrical generation and power distributions grid in this or any other nation.”
There absolutely are commitments! Signed contracts!
“I know that area. It is not “grueling”, and 11.4 miles is the distance between my old house there and the nearest gas station. Big whoop.”
Also hard to tell what that trailer REALLY weighs.
Greenies would go berserk at the very thought of a diesel..............
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