Posted on 03/24/2022 5:51:19 AM PDT by Red Badger
Well given the truck it self clocks in at a little over 7000bs and claims 300 miles with the extended battery, its a safe bet that if its towing 10,000lbs on top of that, I’d bet the max range is probably going to be around 100is or less in real world applications
Electric vehicles are fine commuter vehicles, but they are crap distance vehicles.
When they can be fully recharged, in 10 minutes or less and go 300 miles plus per full charge regardless of weather conditions or road flatness, then they start to really be something that can compete with existing combustion in terms of performance. Until then they are a nice commuter/secondary vehicle if you want to buy one.
As is MSRP.
If the markets were left to their own - and not derelict, false prophet policies - we'd be on the precipice of new, game-changing battery tech rather than throwing a decade's worth of GPD down the toilet on 'climate change' via all their strategies, including 'fossil fuel' inflation & compulsory, policy-driven changes to the vehicle markets.
Exactly. All points.
I pulled a >30K lb load across eastern and central montana with my gen 2 cummins dually on the gooseneck.
Truck was modified quote a bit but even with the extra power I’d crest hills with it floored in low gear at less than 10mph sweating and hoping I’d make it over.
On the plus side I averaged about 9mpg which for nearly 40K lbs in total was pretty amazing as far a I am concerned.
Another plus would be you could drive your car and charge your cell phone in the event of a total power failure. But for me it would require at least a 100K investment in solar panels and electric vehicle.
I wonder how it does pulling a 5th wheel from Michigan to Florida.
I’ve pulled 3,500 lb. to 5,000 lb. trailers 2,000 miles before........1,000 miles at a trip.
Wonder if the Ford EV F-150 could do that.
Just bought sn F-150 with the twin turbo 3.5. The salesman at the dealership was wearing a windbreaker with the f150 Lighyning badge on it - and even he knew 4he fallacy of EV’s.
Yeah. My Tundra can tow 10,000 lbs too. And keep towing it for as many miles as I can stand to drive. It cuts down on my mileage too, but I just pull into a gas station and leave 5-10 minutes later.
Electric has potential but I don’t tow stuff for 11 miles...
I’ll pass. I’d rather not spent long periods of time right next to high voltage electromagnetic EMF’s.
The article probably doesn’t mention it, but unless the trailer is specially designed, the ability to use regenerative braking when towing 10,000 lbs. is likely reduced by 75%. And without regenerative braking, the range of any electric vehicle drops massively, even in highway driving, unless super-flat. And even with regen braking of a trailer, can the ‘truck’ even dump the energy of 17,000 lbs. going downhill into the batteries, since that is huge amount of power (probably 200 kW or so, but I don’t know)?
How many 100s of thousands of dollars does the all-electric Ford F-150 Lightning pickup cost ?
When a Hurricane hits and destroys everything how long will it last ?
They aren’t “zero-emission” vehicles. They are “displaced emission” vehicles. Every time someone says “zero emission”, they are lying.
“But, I guess...they just want to believe.”
Yep. The same folks who believe men can get pregnant and can’t define “woman”!
Yes like a stripped down, basic little car that costs $25k. Something regular people would actually buy. A big plus would be affordable, easy to swap battery packs so that the car's not scrap metal when the batteries need replaced.
How long will the batteries last anyway? 5, 10 years, 100k, 200k miles? Then what does one do with that $60-100k hunk of scrap? Will a scrap yard even take it?
My F150 is 20 years old and has 282,000 miles on it. Still runs and drives good and I could jump in it right now and go cross country. If the engine or tranny blew up tomorrow, I could repair or get a decent used replacement for less than $1k. I could get a brand new replacement for $4-5k. Or I could scrap it and get $5-600 and I only paid $1250 for it and we've had it for 6-7 years.
How much would those batteries cost? They can't be fixed. Will they fit several models of vehicles like an engine does? Same for the electric motor. Will you even be able to buy rebuild parts?
As of right now, EVs are rich people's expensive disposable toys.
"But for me it would require at least a 100K investment in solar panels and electric vehicle."
If we're talking about a solar system to power both your house and charge the EV, probably. My solar system cost $33K (after tax credit $24K) and it produced 55% of the power I consumed last year in my all-electric two-story house. But I live in Alabama (read: low cost of living including low cost for solar installation + plenty of sun + most of the power consumed is for the A/C in the summer when we have even more sun).
Closest major city to me is 80 miles away. I can make the round trip twice fully loaded on a tank of gas, maybe three times.
“ Electric vehicles are fine commuter vehicles, but they are crap distance vehicles.”
Absolutely correct.
That’s being too generous. I wouldn’t even think about accepting the concept until they can be charged in no more time than it currently takes to fuel a conventional vehicle. Which brings up an interesting point:
Assuming that no one comes up with some physics-defying super quick recharging technology any time soon, imagine how gigantic an EV “recharging station” would have to be to accommodate all of the vehicles just sitting there for 30 to 45 minutes. You would need hundreds of chargers at each location to make the throughput even slightly reasonable. Near home, you can of course do the initial charge at home, but I can’t even fathom how huge an EV “gas station” would have to be out in the middle of nowhere on a major interstate to accommodate the hundreds of vehicles that would just be sitting there for a looooong time. And imagine the heavy-duty electrical capacity that would have to be run all the way to these remote places, when they can easily be replenished today by a single tanker truck.
Hybrid and electric cars may be cancer-causing as they emit extremely low frequency (ELF) electromagnetic fields (EMF). Recent studies of the EMF emitted by these automobiles have claimed either that they pose a cancer risk for the vehicles’ occupants or that they are safe.
Unfortunately, much of the research conducted on this issue has been industry-funded by companies with vested interests on one side of the issue or the other which makes it difficult to know which studies are trustworthy.
https://www.saferemr.com/2014/07/shouldnt-hybrid-and-electric-cars-be-re.html
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